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If I were to take a week off to fish Monomoy, which month would prove to be the most productive, historically?
~Mark Doogue
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Best Monomoy Month
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I agree with Hawkeye. I was there June last year and posted the attached on reel-time:
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No B.S., it was incredible. I should point out that I was fishing from Kris'boat almost all the time but on the odd occaisions I jumped out to wade, there were fish aplenty in the shallows!
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No B.S., it was incredible. I should point out that I was fishing from Kris'boat almost all the time but on the odd occaisions I jumped out to wade, there were fish aplenty in the shallows!
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My .02 -
Late May brings the smaller fish, eager to eat anything you throw once you find their stationing behavior thru tide changes. Early June the numbers increase, and by mid-June things are well out of control all over the area with big and small fish mixed in. By late June the area is settling into it's resident / transient patterns and by July the fish that are going to hang out through the summer - "residents" (which I believe are packs of roving fish covering the whole Monomoy area in ever-increasing regularity of patterns thru the summer). This is when things get challenging, and the angler is put to the test for wit and will.
By late August the area surges back into form, and with the exception of last year September brings another explosive wave of eager fish - including tunoids to the Monomoy backwaters.
Last year's abundance of sand eels on the outside and big bass along with them - might have affected the fall Monomoy wave somehow, who knows.
Anyway, my opinion on the question: if you want solid action with large fish in the mix, I'd target early to mid-June. Try all the access points, SB (inside / outside), NM (crib, channel, north end, west flats, etc). Look for patterns of moving fish and when they station. If the juvie squid are around there will be big bass around in shallow water.
But if you want the quintessential high sun sight fishing cat and mouse experience, wait until late June / July. You will have a much higher fish/frustration ratio but will come out a warrior of the flats game. The earlier season is great fishing but teaches you very little in this respect.
How about BOTH!
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Late May brings the smaller fish, eager to eat anything you throw once you find their stationing behavior thru tide changes. Early June the numbers increase, and by mid-June things are well out of control all over the area with big and small fish mixed in. By late June the area is settling into it's resident / transient patterns and by July the fish that are going to hang out through the summer - "residents" (which I believe are packs of roving fish covering the whole Monomoy area in ever-increasing regularity of patterns thru the summer). This is when things get challenging, and the angler is put to the test for wit and will.
By late August the area surges back into form, and with the exception of last year September brings another explosive wave of eager fish - including tunoids to the Monomoy backwaters.
Last year's abundance of sand eels on the outside and big bass along with them - might have affected the fall Monomoy wave somehow, who knows.
Anyway, my opinion on the question: if you want solid action with large fish in the mix, I'd target early to mid-June. Try all the access points, SB (inside / outside), NM (crib, channel, north end, west flats, etc). Look for patterns of moving fish and when they station. If the juvie squid are around there will be big bass around in shallow water.
But if you want the quintessential high sun sight fishing cat and mouse experience, wait until late June / July. You will have a much higher fish/frustration ratio but will come out a warrior of the flats game. The earlier season is great fishing but teaches you very little in this respect.
How about BOTH!
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Brotherman,
Are you looking to take a week off and fish the flats? Or are you just heading out to Monomoy for a long weekend? I say that we plan on a long weekend excursion around the time of your birthday (June 24th). We will of course adjust for tides (I have some good reference tide data from the same time last year when we were out there with Jop - there were plenty of fish on the flats that day). We can fish on a Friday and a Saturday and maybe crash either in a local cheapo motel (or you know that I am always up for camping). I say that we make it happen and that we invite anyone and everyone from the site to come along.
What do you say to a three day weekend fishing extravaganza?
-Mike
Are you looking to take a week off and fish the flats? Or are you just heading out to Monomoy for a long weekend? I say that we plan on a long weekend excursion around the time of your birthday (June 24th). We will of course adjust for tides (I have some good reference tide data from the same time last year when we were out there with Jop - there were plenty of fish on the flats that day). We can fish on a Friday and a Saturday and maybe crash either in a local cheapo motel (or you know that I am always up for camping). I say that we make it happen and that we invite anyone and everyone from the site to come along.
What do you say to a three day weekend fishing extravaganza?
-Mike
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You can bet most/many of us will be in the chase that weekend. So it's Mark's b-day, eh? Cold one on me at the Squire.
We kept Keith and the Rip Rydah pretty active thru the season last year and this year will be no different. You can count me in barring unforseen circumstances.
Camping at Nickerson works out pretty well, it's an easy shot down to Chatham. There are also some other options that will make themselves apparent as the season progresses but I'll opt not to post the details (gladly tell all offline!).
We have many members with places to crash in the area and that always seems to work out too. Boy the prospect of June is like a breath of fresh air!
We kept Keith and the Rip Rydah pretty active thru the season last year and this year will be no different. You can count me in barring unforseen circumstances.
Camping at Nickerson works out pretty well, it's an easy shot down to Chatham. There are also some other options that will make themselves apparent as the season progresses but I'll opt not to post the details (gladly tell all offline!).
We have many members with places to crash in the area and that always seems to work out too. Boy the prospect of June is like a breath of fresh air!
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Yes, the day of my birth is June 24th, and hopefully I've made the world a better place in my 30 full years.
Lil' Bro', I was planning on a solid week if I can swing it, mostly early morning/half day affairs. I need to check with the all powerful Mother of my child of course. A long weekend may be just the ticket, though. Sandy won't have any real vacation time because she is changing jobs and we already have the Outer Banks, NC trip planned for the fall. She certainly can't begrudge me a long weekend of fishing during my much deserved vacation time.
Lets do it. Tell me when and I'll tell my boss not to expect me that week in June.
As far as libations are concerned, Juro, why don't we start the thread right here. What is your favorite malt beverage as well as your favorite spirit. I'm fairly well connected in this regard, and could certainly make that special(read expensive) beverage more fiscally attainable for any of the claves I'd be able to attend.
Here is the list of products that I have direct access to:
Sam Adams (all flavors)
Guinness/Bass/Harp
Heineken/Amstel Light
Corona
The Miller Brewing Co. brands
Mike's Lemonade
Cider Jack
Magners Cider
Ipswich
Smuttynose
Schlitz(for the old school crowd)
& the fisherman's friend.........RED BULL
I have contacts for any brand of spirit that may tickle your fancy as well. It's a professional courtesy.
I'm not setting up a liquor service here, by any means, but I can definitely help out when the need arises, and if I am available.
~Mark Doogue
Lil' Bro', I was planning on a solid week if I can swing it, mostly early morning/half day affairs. I need to check with the all powerful Mother of my child of course. A long weekend may be just the ticket, though. Sandy won't have any real vacation time because she is changing jobs and we already have the Outer Banks, NC trip planned for the fall. She certainly can't begrudge me a long weekend of fishing during my much deserved vacation time.
Lets do it. Tell me when and I'll tell my boss not to expect me that week in June.
As far as libations are concerned, Juro, why don't we start the thread right here. What is your favorite malt beverage as well as your favorite spirit. I'm fairly well connected in this regard, and could certainly make that special(read expensive) beverage more fiscally attainable for any of the claves I'd be able to attend.
Here is the list of products that I have direct access to:
Sam Adams (all flavors)
Guinness/Bass/Harp
Heineken/Amstel Light
Corona
The Miller Brewing Co. brands
Mike's Lemonade
Cider Jack
Magners Cider
Ipswich
Smuttynose
Schlitz(for the old school crowd)
& the fisherman's friend.........RED BULL
I have contacts for any brand of spirit that may tickle your fancy as well. It's a professional courtesy.
I'm not setting up a liquor service here, by any means, but I can definitely help out when the need arises, and if I am available.
~Mark Doogue
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Mark,
You are making me feel very lucky that my employer allows me to enjoy what is affectionately known as "flex time". I just may head in to the office this weekend and build up some fishing time that I will eagerly cash in this summer.
We can make it happen.
Talk to you soon...
You are making me feel very lucky that my employer allows me to enjoy what is affectionately known as "flex time". I just may head in to the office this weekend and build up some fishing time that I will eagerly cash in this summer.
We can make it happen.
Talk to you soon...
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Mark -
By the time I hit the top of the list... Sam Adams... I am already there. Although I love to experiment with the rest of the list and my first love (in the suds department) is Widmer Hefferweissen served ice (read forsted mug) cold with a slice of lemon like they serve in Octoberfest in Germany, a bucket of steamers after a hard days' fishing >sigh<
Now if you're talking single malts at more consumable prices (pun), How about a 30 year Macallan? Are you reading this Kush? Pete?
Boy this season is *really* shaping up now
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By the time I hit the top of the list... Sam Adams... I am already there. Although I love to experiment with the rest of the list and my first love (in the suds department) is Widmer Hefferweissen served ice (read forsted mug) cold with a slice of lemon like they serve in Octoberfest in Germany, a bucket of steamers after a hard days' fishing >sigh<
Now if you're talking single malts at more consumable prices (pun), How about a 30 year Macallan? Are you reading this Kush? Pete?
Boy this season is *really* shaping up now
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Okay, I phoned the appropriate people and came up with the following figures.
Macallan 25yr.: $195/bottle
Macallan 30yr.: $300/bottle
Macallan 1946: $1934/bottle
That last one is just an informational item, unless you all have stock options we aren't aware of. Those are the wholesale prices for the month of March. Sometimese the pricing drops from month to month but those are fairly reperesentative of the norm.
Also, the difference in taste between the 30 and 25 is so miniscule that it would hardly justify the extra expense. The "experts" tell me that "perception is reality" when you are dealing with scotch over 18yrs in age. Basically, if you feel better about drinking a 30yr scotch, and you can afford it, by all means do, but the 18yr drinker is enjoying primarily the same liquid.
Just my .02
Macallan 25yr.: $195/bottle
Macallan 30yr.: $300/bottle
Macallan 1946: $1934/bottle
That last one is just an informational item, unless you all have stock options we aren't aware of. Those are the wholesale prices for the month of March. Sometimese the pricing drops from month to month but those are fairly reperesentative of the norm.
Also, the difference in taste between the 30 and 25 is so miniscule that it would hardly justify the extra expense. The "experts" tell me that "perception is reality" when you are dealing with scotch over 18yrs in age. Basically, if you feel better about drinking a 30yr scotch, and you can afford it, by all means do, but the 18yr drinker is enjoying primarily the same liquid.
Just my .02
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