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Old 01-30-2003, 06:22 AM
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Has anyone tried the subsitute for Softex don't remember the name of the stuff. The problem I have with Softex is the fumes and the drying out. The subsitute comes in thick or thin. If its as good as Softex ,should I buy the thick or the thin? FishHawk
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Old 01-30-2003, 07:39 AM
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Do you mean "Soft Body"?

I use this stuff all the time; it's a bit less troublesome to work with than 5-minute epoxy, so I suppose I consider it a time-saving step, and using it has other benefits, also, as it's supposedly non-toxic, is easy to clean up if any drips onto the tying desk, dries crystal clear and quite hard (applies to both the thin and thick versions), and requires no real preparation. I usually apply it by dipping my bodkin in the jar, taking some of the stuff out, then pasting it on the fly and working it in to the materials. Two coats is all that most of my flies get, and they hold up quite well against some of the more toothy fish I encounter (blues, jacks, 'cuda, etc.). The other method I sometimes employ to coat a fly is to simply dip the head into the jar, allow excess to run off, then work it in as needed or set the fly into a frying wheel. Overall, I'm pleased with this product, and keep several jars of thick and thin consistencies on my desk.
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Old 01-30-2003, 07:54 AM
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By the way, I use the thin formula most of the time; just seems easier for me to work with.
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Old 01-30-2003, 09:20 AM
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Would you please identify manufacturer. Thanks.
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Old 01-30-2003, 09:24 AM
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Would you please identify manufacturer. Thanks.
Yes that would help.
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Old 01-30-2003, 10:39 AM
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Soft Body

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Old 01-30-2003, 01:10 PM
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You said this stuff is hard when it dries? It isn't flexible and rubbery like Softex? Just wondering why they call it "Soft Body".

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Old 01-30-2003, 01:30 PM
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I just started experimenting with the stuff and so far it dries rubbery and clear..I like it..but have not yet used it much to get a clear picture about it.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:15 PM
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I'd say that it dries to a very tough, rubbery finish, not rock hard like epoxy. Even so, it does dry clear. Having tied some surf candies up last week with rattle chambers in the belly sac area, it's possible to see the bearings inside the chamber quite clearly, and this is through pearlescent body braid, monofilament tying thread, and the soft body material. I'd say it's pretty clear. The thick formula is nearly as viscous as silicone rubber; haven't tried making any "silicone flies" using the thick soft body yet, but I imagine that it could be used with Photo-Flo in much the same manner as silicone is used. The drying time with the thin formula seems to be around 20-minutes or so, a little less time for the thick, I think. After that, additional coats can be applied.
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Old 01-30-2003, 04:21 PM
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I kinda like the way the softex smells
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Old 01-30-2003, 04:32 PM
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Dude, gimme another hit of that Softex :hehe:
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I also use Soft Body to give my crease flies a bit more durability, btw. Seems to help them last a little longer if they should be happened upon by a "chopper". I'll have to see if I can take some pics o the flies I use this stuff on; everyone will be able to see "clearly" how this product looks when dried.

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Old 01-30-2003, 06:37 PM
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Softbody

I like the material as well. It works very well as a coating for braid or tinsel bodies, sets up in about 20-thirty minutes. Fully dry in two hours, full cure in 24.

I've had good success using it for sandeel patterns, and used it in place of epoxy for the Sandeel Jiggy that Steve Farrar ties. n flies where I use molded eyes, affixed with CA Glue, I over coat the head and eyes with Softbody and put it on a wheel. They dry very nicely and hold fast. (If you get any CA slopped over onto and clouding the eyes, the SB also clears them nicely.)

I have only used the thin formula- it tends to thicken over time like any fluid and can be thinned with a few drops of water.

Also available at most fly tying suppliers.
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Thanks. I'll have to try some of that stuff (the Soft Body, that is :hehe: ). One of the downfalls of Softex, aside from the odor and toxicity, is that it's not totally clear when it dries.

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Good thread!
I bought some softex a couple years back but didn't use it much because of the smell/danger (I need all the brain cells I've got left). Recently I saw Stan Macerwicz(sp?) use it on his bonito killer at the Marlborough show. Stan used one of those squeeze bottle dispensers many use for head cement. I think one of the problems with softex is the container, that huge opening allows some serious evaporation take place in short order. The toluene is still some nasty stuff and I'm careful not to touch it but the head cement dispenser significantly reduces the fumes and handling.
I'll have to give this soft body a try, if it dries clear and is non-toxic it's worth a shot. Does anyone know who makes it? I've used some of the Loon products with good results but still like hard as nails (another unhealth substance) for the durability.
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Do you need to use a drying wheel with this material? It sounds very interesting stuff.
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