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Old 01-26-2003, 08:19 AM
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Most of the time, I'm using 10# or 12# FC for chinook and find it adequate (assuming I haven't screwed up a knot.) I have straightened lighter hooks on them though and now I use only those heavy wire salmon hooks. Lighter tippets do give you a shot at a steelie or brown.

Check out the breaking strength/diameter and the 1X and 0X trout tippet tend to have the highest ratio. I have a load of FC to use up but I'll be switching to heavy trout tippet for next season.
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Old 01-26-2003, 08:27 AM
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Peter,

Nice flies, you have the touch of a master.

Just in case you don't know Michigan has a 1/2" hook gap rule. When you come down in April make sure your boxes are free of the big boy hooks. Don't want to see you run afoul of the fish police.
Read that somewhere before. How do they measure that on something like a Bartleet or Alex Jackson spey hook? Perpendicular to the hook point or at the greatest vertical gap between point and shank, measured at any point on the shank?
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Peter,

Copied this from the Michigan DNr site;

Gear Restrictions:

On all streams (including tributaries to the Great Lakes) during the time period August 1-May 31, it shall be unlawful to use multi-pointed hooks exceeding 3/8 inch between point and shank and/or single-pointed hooks exceeding 1/2 inch between point and shank. Also, during this time period, it shall be unlawful to use lures or weights exceeding one (1) ounce. The Detroit River, St. Marys River and St. Clair River are exempt from these restrictions.
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Old 01-26-2003, 10:47 AM
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Wonderful

That leaves the choice of where to measure on the shank up to the fish policeman. If he didn't get laid the night before and you're using a curved hook . . . .

Hopefully most are reasonable and measure perpendicular to the point.
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hmmm....

You should be fine, don't worry about it.
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Peter,

You should be okay, just wanted to give you a heads up. Leave the 1/0 and above at home.
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Question 1/2" gap rule?

You can't even have bigger hooks in your possesion???
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I think it may depend on the DNR guy. If he's gung-ho it gould be a problem.

You hate to invite trouble if you get my drift.
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MDNR? Gung ho? Hah!
I wouldn't stress too hard about it. I haven't ever been asked to search my boxes. They might glance at what's on the end of your line, but, even then. They tend to leave most fly fisherman alone..unless it's a creel census. At least where I fish.

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I tend to be over cautious at times. Would not want one of Canadian brothers of the long rod getting hassled.

I have run into a couple of gung ho DNR dudes. One in Indiana and one in Michigan. The iInd. guy was worried about me snagging, this was back in the early 80's when I used noodle rods. He was a real PITA, I guess 4# test and size 8 or 10 presentations make one a snagger.
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I think you can use a double salmon fly hook in Michigan still as long as it meets the 3/8 multi hook gap rule above, right ?

Guess I will empty the 1/0s and above for the spring and fall runs but you can still use them in June and July in Michigan for summer run steelies in the rivers. No hook size restriction in the surf or lake michigan.

Don't think they are going to bother fly fisherman as long as you are not snagging with a large hook on your line. If its not on your line I don't think they can do anything to you.

The m,ichigan regulation states "to use" not "have in your possession" I can legally argue my way out if they find some illegal hooks in my possesion but which I am not using.

Isn't the U.S. law beautiful ?

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Good luck on the Summer-runs. Not too many of them in Michigan.

Doubt if the give you a hassle for having them in your box, but why bother.

What would the odds be of seeing a DNR guy on the opening day of trout season anyway.

Michigan is not Illinois if you know what I mean.
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Hey, guys - let's think this one out.

If you are not snagging or lining, or some other illegal act, has a warden ever asked to see anything other than your license, and (rarely) what's on the end of your line?

At least that has been MY experience!

If they REALLY were looking for some MAJOR violations (e.g. terrorists), they might "pat you down" and look in your vest and flyboxes, but the instances of THAT are extremely low probability. And, in that case, I am sure they would be accompanied by the State Police or FBI!

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MJYP : You forget about one key michigan river.

If they ever made me empty my entire fly vest they would miss their lunch break for sure. I wonder what I would find it if I ever emptied the entire thing. Has not happened in 20 years.

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P.S. I will make sure they check the Canucks though, they use some really big hooks up there from what I have seen.
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I doubt they would check boxes, but it is better to be informed than tell DNR guy "I did not know".

Would not want our Wisconsin or Canadian brothers running afoul of the man.
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