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Old 12-04-2002, 03:26 PM
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I have it on VERY good authority that Malcom's dog ...

stares at him in fear every time he goes near his tieing bench. Poor dog has lost most of his tail hair over the years.

"Hal,
I'll tie a Garry Dog variation on my new Dyna King Barracuder just as soon as Fred gets it in the post. What a wonderful man he is, he understands drop addresses perfectly.

Malcolm"

Willie, is it also true, that your wife keeps her fur coat under lock and key?


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Old 12-04-2002, 03:36 PM
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I tie a nice Thunder and Lightning if you need another participant.

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Old 12-04-2002, 05:52 PM
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Smolt,

You will have to come out with me and I will show you some of the good steelhead fly fishing opportunities we have here. Forget the Root, that is chaos. I am always looking for serious steelhead fly fishing partners. Actually for the last few years I have been going solo. I will tell you though most of the good steelheading fishing is in cold conditions. BTW, love Maine been through there a number of times when lived back east but did not do much fishing there. Mostly NH, NYS, NJ, and PA when I lived back there 20 years ago.


So Smolt and N Brandon are now in. That makes 9 participants if I am counting correctly.

Need 1 more to close this swaps participants out.
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Old 12-04-2002, 08:46 PM
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Man, you get an Atty. involved and we're all

probably be "presented" with a 12 page written (very small print) performance contract. Why am 'I afraid, very afraid?'

This will be very cool ... other than all my pattern books are in storrage until the new house gets finished. As the 'topic at hand' is "hair wings" can anyone point me at a web site for some suggestions?

Years ago, an old friend told me that "rich or poor, everything you own can be put in the back of a big truck." Bob understated the truth. No matter what your wife says: never buy a home "under construction;" you have NO CLUE how long it will be before you get your "stuff" back. This is turning into a working definition of: " THE SH..'s."
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Old 12-04-2002, 09:28 PM
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Fred,

I could write very detailed complex requirements but I get enough of that in corporate land.

There fore the requirements will be simple as follows:

1) Fly must have a hair wing, thats why we call this a hair wing fly swap.

2) Can be any atlantic salmon or steelhead hair wing pattern of your choice, but lets ensure no two people are doing the same fly pattern.

3) Hook size, lets determine what hook size would work best for every one. I suppose either a size 4 or 6.

I have my K. Fulsher and C. Krom - book here - Hair Wing Atlantic Salmon Flies - 1981, which provides a history of hair wings, tying techniques, and many patterns.

I will tie one of these, probably one that is not a famous one.

I think some of the historical Rogue River Flies like the Red Ant, Golden Demon, Yellow Fever, Juicy Bug, Tiger Paw, Blue Boy, Rogue River Special, Old Mare, Black Ant, or Chevaney etc.. would be deeply appreciated by us knowing that it came from the Rogue Spey Master himself. :hehe:

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Old 12-04-2002, 10:03 PM
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Hal, mocho grassies for the info ... move, as in moving ..

is a "four letter word." NEVER, EVER, NEVER EVER buy a home "under construction!" Sweet Jesus, I'll be dead before this thing gets built. My life insurance will leave Joan with out a mortgage.

And to make 'matters' more interesting loaded McAffee's 2003 version of their anti-virus program last night and it "ate" AOL, or should that be "sol" ability to access the internet. Working off a neighbors old computer. Understanding neighbors (he's a fisherman) is God's Gift.

With everything I own, short of two suit cases of closes and a few boxes of "no way's!!!" in storrage life is getting more than interesting. Old COO's wonderful line was from the Chinese Curse "may you live in interesting times." Terry was a Sage; but who would know when you're snug as a bug in a rug?

Sheesh.

Tomorrow, off to the web sites on your PM to get re-educated.


Sorry my spelling, etc., is well off the mark tonight (so what's different?) Every intention of getting totally "plotted" this evening. Had it up to here with BS this past couple of weeks. Anyone else been there/done that?

Don't answer that question.

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Old 12-04-2002, 10:25 PM
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PM,

I will take you up on your kind offer. I have tried, unsuccessfully, to contact you via this board's "private message" function. How do I get in touch with you? I am trying to figure out how to send you my email address without posting it for all to see. It is now past my bedtime. Hopefully, I can figure this out tomorrow morning.

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Old 12-05-2002, 09:03 AM
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Smolt,

My private message box is full I will clean it out and then you can send. Try again tonight.

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Old 12-05-2002, 02:42 PM
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Fred Your house will be raedy for

Christmas, but the question is which Christmas.

How can you tell when the builder is lying?

His lips move.

Here's the pooch at the end of the fly tying season


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Old 12-05-2002, 03:24 PM
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Will, you're right on all counts!

Sounds like 'things' are the same regardless of which side of the pond you live on.
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And I just KNEW I was right about your dogs!!!!
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Old 12-05-2002, 04:29 PM
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What kind of dogs are those ? Are these the ones the Garry Dog AS fly will be constructed from? Poor little fellows
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Old 12-05-2002, 05:53 PM
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Hal, I've got one of Willie's Collie Dogs ...

and now you all know why his pooch(s) slink into far dark corners of the room when (t)he(y) spot Dr. "M" with a pair of scissors in his hand. The "fear factor" must be huge as they started out as long haired Collies.

Where's PETA when you need them?
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Old 12-05-2002, 11:44 PM
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Oh no my family is talking about buying two dogs a husky and a retriever. I don't think I have a vote in this between the wife and the boys.

Just hope they have some long hair for you know what?
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Old 12-06-2002, 01:52 PM
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pmflyfisher,
This is what you want



Thats what they look like at the start of the fly tying season. Of course its not cruel the hair soon grows back

Garry Dog, It is also known by other names Minister's Golden or Yellow Dog.

Invented by John Wright, the son of the famous James Wright of Sprounston,
This pattern is reputed to have been born in a tackle shop where a visiting minister or preist was asked for some hair from his accompanying Golden Retriever’s tail. This was used to form part of the wing of a fly being tied in the premises. Nowadays a substitute of yellow bucktail or similar hair is used for this part of the wing. The name of the dog was supposedly Garry hence the name Garry dog. Others say it was the ministers name hence Garry’s dog.
One of Scotland's most popular flies, the Garry dog is rated in all rivers but particularly those that carry a dark peat strain.

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Old 12-06-2002, 02:54 PM
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One of Scotland's most popular flies, the Garry dog is rated in all rivers but particularly those that carry a dark peat strain.

Malcolm
I've often read about Scottish anglers choosing their flies based on the color of the water. Eg. A Green Highlander would be used in rivers with a green tinted riverbed.

Do you find this increases your chances? I guess i'm trying to figure out the logic behind the color choice. The mantra that is repeated in flyshops in the US is "dark day, dark fly" and not much more. Maybe there's something to learn here?

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