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Old 11-12-2002, 12:23 AM
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Most Used flies?

A ponder for you. There are lots of flies out there for Steelhead fly fishing. It kind of makes me wonder considering the old adage:
" 98 percent presentation, 2 percent fly."

There are some favourites out there, some flies used more than others. I was wondering from what you know/understand which flies you believe are the most popular/used in general by fly anglers for the below applications.

"True" (dead drifted) dry fly -

Waked surface fly -

Swung Subsurface/wet fly -

Dredged Swung fly (sink tip and/or heavily weighted) -

Hang down/slow swing -

Nymph -
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Old 11-12-2002, 12:37 AM
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Great question!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Scott K
[B]A ponder for you. There are lots of flies out there for Steelhead fly fishing. It kind of makes me wonder considering the old adage:
" 98 percent presentation, 2 percent fly."

There are some favourites out there, some flies used more than others. I was wondering from what you know/understand which flies you believe are the most popular/used in general by fly anglers for the below applications.

"True" (dead drifted) dry fly -

Muddler Minnow

Waked surface fly -
Waller Walker

Swung Subsurface/wet fly -
Otis bug or a "BBB" aka big, black and buggy.

Dredged Swung fly (sink tip and/or heavily weighted) -

Toss up between an Otis Bug or (Bless you Malcom!) a Willie Gun.

Hang down/slow swing -
Prince Nymph

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Old 11-12-2002, 10:42 AM
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I agree in your 98-2 percent split however I feel that the 2% is far more important to the angler. If you have confidence in the fly, the presentation will be better. Anyways, here are my thoughts on the list.

"True" (dead drifted) dry fly - NA (don't fish them)

Waked surface fly - Tie between Bulkley Mouse and a riffled Purple Muddler

Swung Subsurface/wet fly - Purple Spey

Dredged Swung fly (sink tip and/or heavily weighted) - Tie between Black Scampi or Orange/Red Marabou Spider

Hang down/slow swing - Speys in Black or Purple

Nymph - NA (don't fish them)
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Old 11-12-2002, 12:02 PM
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I will have to say I do not have many patterns I stick with. I like tying so I am apt to use a different fly almost everytime I go out. Especially with speys and spider type flies. I just keep the colors consistent (bright/dark).

Will list what I am using now:

"True" (dead drifted) dry fly -

N/A

Waked surface fly -

Juro's Bunny Rat

Swung Subsurface/wet fly -

Tie between a coal car and Lelands low water Freight Train spey he ties.

Dredged Swung fly (sink tip and/or heavily weighted) -

General Practioner in dark purple or orange. Plan on trying out the Ally's shrimp this winter as well.

Hang down/slow swing -

For now I am using variations of Glasso Sol Duc Spey. Both in the original colors and in a black and purple variation.

Nymph -

Do not fish them.
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Old 11-12-2002, 03:41 PM
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Cigarette, anyone?

Would it be apostasy to add Cigarette Butt to the list of dry flies?

A bait fisherman I met on a river one day was pretty generous with his information. So I responded in kind, telling him I'd picked up a few fish as well, several on dry flies. He snorted in derision, refusing to believe that a steelhead would take a dry fly.

With a degree of recklessness I bet him $ 20.00 that not only could it be done with relative ease but that I'd use a cigarette butt to demonstrate just how nondescriminating (recklessly imprudent) these fish can be.

I strapped a filter onto a fine wire hook with some tying thread (I recall it was a Player Light) slathered some Mucilin on it and after a few casts in water I knew held fish, picked up a nice 10 lb. doe. Although duly impressed, the guy mumbled something about having left his wallet in his car but he'd be sure to pay me the next time he saw me on the river....

The moral of the story (for me anyway) is-- try and collect on your bets up front.... and .......it ain't necessarily what's tied on the end of your line; it's what it's doing in the water.
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Old 11-12-2002, 03:58 PM
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Must've been a hatchery fish!

That's a classic Marketic.
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Old 11-12-2002, 04:13 PM
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Butt is it fly fishing?

Marketic,
Great story, but it begs the question, What is the defination of a "fly"?
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Old 11-12-2002, 04:32 PM
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The reason she went for the cigarette is she had just spawned. Had a girl friend like that once.:hehe:
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Old 11-12-2002, 04:45 PM
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Wilie Gunn--

Your point is well taken about what may or may not constitute a "fly". But perhaps we can agree that the use of a Butt in this particular instance might at least be considered a fly? In the ointment? Of selective trout?

I suspect you would have been a bit more impressed if it had been a Rothman Light but one must make do with what one has on hand when screaming in church on a wager.
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Old 11-12-2002, 06:24 PM
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I agree with Kerry S that can be the only plausible reason for female steelhead to rise for a cigarette butt.

I wonder what the odds are of doing that second time ?
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Old 11-13-2002, 12:18 AM
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Great question:

Dead Drift Dry: N/A, I don't fish dead drift dries.

Waked/Skated dries: toss up between Lemire's Greased Liner and Waller Waker.

Swung subsurface wet fly (on floating line): toss up between a Night Dancer tied Irish Shrimp style, a Silver Blue low-water feather wing, and a low-water Lady Caroline.

Dredged Swung Wet Fly on a sink tip: Toss up between Glasso's Orange Heron, Johnson's Deep Purple Spey or a Purple Emperor Full Dress Feather Wing.

Nymph: I suppose you could call Bob Arnold's Spade a nymph, but I never fish it weighted and only fish it in summer/fall.
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Old 11-13-2002, 02:03 AM
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Dead drifted dry: steelhead bee #8 ( never taken a fish this way but i do it on the umpqua once in a while)

Skater/Waker: Steelhead caddis #6

Wet: Standard skunk #1/0

Wet fly dead drift: standard skunk #1/0( a dead drifted skunk is awsome guys try it!!!!!

Wet fly dredged: Black and purple marabou tied on a cheap mustad hook. # 1/0
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Old 11-13-2002, 09:04 AM
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Without a doubt presentation is the key to taking steelhead on the fly. My presentation is enhanced if I have confidence in the fly. The following flies have served me well for years; in fact I would fish with confidence on any of my usual waters summer or winters with a fly box with only these:

Dead drift dry: A toss-up between Haig-Brown's steelhead bee and Grey Wulff.

Waked/skated: Riffle Demon (black).

Floating line (grease line) wet fly: Lady Caroline.

Sinking line(s): Winter Sculpin.

Tight lines
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Old 11-13-2002, 11:15 AM
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True" (dead drifted) dry fly - Don't dead drift yet

Waked surface fly -
Green or Purple Foam Dome

Swung Subsurface/wet fly -
Green Butt Black bear, Thunder and lightening dark, or Black GP

Dredged Swung fly (sink tip and/or heavily weighted) -
black GP or My Marabou Black Eye

Hang down/slow swing - Ugly bug

I keep telling myself it is time to go to one fly box but I never can quite get there.

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