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Old 06-11-2002, 03:36 PM
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Here are two deep eels I tyed...the one on the top is the way I did them last year and this winter....done in layers of unique hair, flash first then white...flip over and put in sparce lavender , then Chartruese, then aqua green, then forest green, then Olive. The one below is the same colors with the addition of grey but all blended in like the flatwing bucktail, the blending is by putting all the fibers between your fingers and pulling small stands out and placing them back...back and forth... this really also creates a perfect point at the back and a nice blended color... Juro does it this way I think... I used to like layering and those flys still work well..but the subtle colors and point is an improvement to this standard fly for me.
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Old 06-11-2002, 07:45 PM
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John, this is just too bizarre. Remember when I posted about those Mini Candies right before you posted your Candies? Well I was just going to inquire about the Real Eel and ask for a few more pics.......then I saw your post.

Anyway, thanks. By the way, do you find that a subtler color (say bronze or drab olive) is better on the flats? I've looked at the original Real Eel thread in the archive, and that's the vibe I was getting. I'd like to know before I start cranking some more out.

Thanks, and let's not have any more cosmic events.
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Old 06-11-2002, 07:50 PM
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Mark...with those vibes...we better fish together sometime.... I have tyed some in bronze, brown, etc..but not for Chatham... I know Juro does the bronze for the Brewster flats... I think Sparse is more key than color, but I have had good luck with the Chatruse blend... but I did not sight fish much last year but will be doing it exclusively this summer. By the way... the photo does not really show the colors but there is a streak of Lavender though the middle that is not blended... I put the blended bunch on top of the lavender.

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Old 06-12-2002, 06:29 AM
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I've been using an olive over white with a blend of lavender chartruese and white in between on the bayside the last few weeks. When I've found fish (lots of hunting and probing) the takes have been fast and competitive, no hesitation at all. But I really don't believe color matters at this stage of the season. A slender tapered profile is the key. I seem to always work in at least a strand of lavender and a strand of chartruse regardles of how "subtle" a color scheme I'm tying. Just a gut thing I guess.

Also, with Super Hair or Unique Hair the olive is more green than olive to me (but I'm partially color blind, so who knows). For what I think is olive I blend olive and tan.
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Old 06-12-2002, 07:55 AM
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Colors are cool and can make a difference!

I ususally tie in a few strands of bright blue mixed with a few strands of hot pink mixed together (three of each) as cheeks on my flatwings. The mixture produces both a hot violet sheen and also the individual colors as well as reacting to the background yellows & chartreuse to give a range of different effects as the materials move. Fish seem to like it too!
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Old 06-12-2002, 08:55 AM
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Have you ever studied sumi-e? Me neither (well alright a little) but my point is that the paper is just as important as the ink in the expression. Both the presence and absence of color can be critical.

But not as critical as the overall expression, and that includes color, placement, retrieve, direction of flight (as in flee), and speed. Everyday can be different - there are no steadfast rules but themes repeat and from that a consistency forms over time and in my opinion, this is the only level worth memorizing.

Stripers are remarkable fish. They inhabit a wide range along the seaboard, traveling that full range rhythmically and methodically with clockwork seasonal precision. They become very focused on behaviors, preferences, and most importantly their impulses.

The key to successful striper fishing is to know their impulses. If color in a fly is part of that equation on a given day, then it is critical. If not, it's insignificant.


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Old 06-12-2002, 10:32 AM
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Juro...Is that the same paper that you walk on in wet waders and don't leave a mark, much less a tear (all on soft sand)?!
This past weekend I was somewhat frustrated...I saw fish, got off the cast, turned them, but was not able to complete the connection...
I suspected a fault in my retrieve...'Workin' on it...Hope to break the code SOON! May need help...
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Old 06-12-2002, 10:42 AM
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Same problem here, Pete. I pulled the nail knot into the guides many times with fish in hot pursuit only to turn away when I had nowhere else to work the fly. Not sure what it was going to take to open their mouths. Hopefully this weekend, we'll find out.

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