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Old 01-29-2003, 09:46 PM
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Most GL fishers post on TSS, hopefully they will stay there.

Commercialized Steelhead fishing is all that is.
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Old 01-30-2003, 07:28 AM
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Smile Lake O. Tribs

As you know, Hal, I am a Lake O. trib fisherman. Personal preference is to catch the steelies and browns, and don't go after the salmon when the run is in progress. Why?

Well, it's because of the "wall to wall" fishermen, and the blatant snagging and foul hooking, and the lack of sportsmanship and courtesy exhibited by the mobs.

NY screwed up in the early years of the fishery by legalizing snagging. Michigan Crickets were the prime "lure", and I wouldn't go. Now they outlawed it, but it was too late. Taught too many fishermen that snagging was productive. Finally, they outlawed J-plugs this year.

I like flyfishing, but am not a snob. I don't care what type of tackle you use, as long as it's legal. But please, no blatant snagging.

So I go after the salmon runs when the mobs drop off, and while still somewhat crowded, the guys I share the stream with are a better class of sportsmen, and a lot of C&R fishing goes on. (Why keep a fish to eat, when they are loaded with PCBs and Mirex?)
Good fishing, guys, and keep your rod bent!

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Old 01-30-2003, 08:04 AM
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I live in Ohio just 20 miles from Lake Erie...

I fish Conneaut Creek and the Grand River for Steelheads and Salmon.
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(Why keep a fish to eat, when they are loaded with PCBs and Mirex?)

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Your above statement should put a dent in the snagger population.

Many of the GL DNR's really screwed up when they legalized snagging. Seems like it is bred in them now, they have started patrols on the Big Man. in Mi. it has helped to ease snagging a bit. Proble m is these guys just pack up and move to another unpatrolled river or section of the same river.

I always felt the best thing would be create a section on river where it is legal to snag. These guys won't stop anyway and at least we congragate them. Hopefully they will prey on each other for grandpa's prime snagging spot. Since we can't stop it restrict it. Make it from sept. 15th thru Oct 15th. It may work, they would be easier to watch and arrest if they happen to break any laws.
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Old 01-30-2003, 08:26 AM
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I think they should make it legal to snag the snaggers. A 15' 10wt should do the trick. A nice solid hook set would really dig that 4/0 down into the shoulder blade. Ooooohhhh Baby! Listen to that reel scream!!! Now thats sporting!

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Old 01-30-2003, 08:26 AM
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To think a year ago we did not even have a great lakes section on the board except for Peter S-C then he disappeared for 8 months. I figured he found a better candian great lakes board to spend his time. Now thankfully he is back with us.

It was just me trying to hold my own with the PNW steelheaders and the few european and north american atlantic salmon fly fisherman on the forumn.

Now we have a thriving and growing great lakes member population.

I don't feel so lonely anymore.


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P.S. Peter SC did you bring your vise and materials with you for the lonely business seminar hours in your room or just a couple of fly fishing magazines like I usually do ?

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Old 01-30-2003, 08:57 AM
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I'm a GL steelheader also, though this year I haven't been doing very well.

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It is amazing, that there are so many GL fishermen.

All this while I thought there wer only 3 of us.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:48 PM
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P.S. Peter SC did you bring your vise and materials with you for the lonely business seminar hours in your room or just a couple of fly fishing magazines like I usually do ?
Naw, we do this three or four times a year and the evenings are usually spent sampling Montreal's fine restaurants. I usually arrive back at the hotel in a condition that is not conducive to tying. Did you know that Montreal sidewalks move from side-to-side late at night? Darn hard to walk on - very inconsiderate of them.

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Old 01-30-2003, 05:01 PM
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Dan,

Definitely not, great job on the Michigan Spey Clave so far. I am impressed. Wish I could help but my corporation has about 7 800 pound gorillas on my back right now, and its growing.

Corporate madness 2003 style !! Its getting worse.

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Old 01-30-2003, 05:11 PM
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thanks Hal...

Hal I look foward to meeting you, we view our fishery the same and I believe it is just as fine as the Upper Pacific NW fishery for steelhead.

The clave is going to be hot! I will save a spot for you!
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Old 01-30-2003, 07:46 PM
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I've been off the forum to long. Sounds like I've missed all sorts of fun. Duck & goose season is now over so I can return my attention to piscatorial persuits. :hehe:
Hal- send me your snail-mail. I have a patern for you to try.
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Pat,

Welcome back, how was duck and goose season, get any good feathers ?

Hows Hoosier land, I was down at ND in November.

Whats the secret fly ? I love secret flies !!!

Will PM you my home address.

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Old 01-30-2003, 08:26 PM
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Hi Hal,
Duck & goose hunting was good. Lots of duck gumbo & Teriyaki goose brests.
You'wd probably kick my hinnie if you knew how many mallard feathers I wasted.
The fly in question is a mymph patern I concocted. (It was also the patern on which I caught my first steely) As best I can tell it is unique although it definantly borrows heavily from other paterns.
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