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Old 02-27-2002, 08:55 AM
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Dubbing Brush question

I was experimenting with making dubbing brushes last night and realized when I tried to wrap one around a hook that the wire I used was too stiff. Does anyone have any suggestions for what gauge wire I should use?
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Old 02-27-2002, 09:45 AM
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Something between 20 and 24.
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Old 02-27-2002, 11:57 AM
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Thanks Dave, I used 18 last night and while it held the dubbing good it was tough to wrap & the fly head ended up more obesse than I wanted.

Also how tight should the wires be twisted together? Should the pitch be 2 wire diameters, 4, etc?
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Old 02-28-2002, 08:39 AM
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I'd stay with two strand spins from a center bend, unless the 24 starts to break under pressure, then increase by one strand per spin, etc. Are you using 18 ga. copper? that ought to be soft enough to spin and wrap without too much trouble...least it used to be in the olden days
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Old 02-28-2002, 09:15 AM
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The 24 ga I worked with last night worked much better. It may be time to look at the craft store for colored wire.

With the 18 ga I wrapped the brush too tight and it was more like a single thick wire than 2 thin ones.

Once again thanks Dave.
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What's a Dubbing brush??
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Old 02-28-2002, 10:47 AM
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A dubbing brush is just about the same thing as a dubbing loop, but it uses fine diameter wire instead of thread for the loop. It's tied in with the tying thread like any other material and then wound forward at the appropriate step.
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Old 02-28-2002, 11:15 AM
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It's a 'pipe cleaner' made with the dubbing material

John or Grego or any one of you other craft store rats

I don't remember if I've ever seen fine gauge copper wire in any of the stores, and I think I've looked pretty extensively. Have I totally missed it??? 'cuz I'm thinking it probably isn't that much a horror to get it at the fly tackle emporium of choice...

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Old 02-28-2002, 12:10 PM
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Dave, I'll have to double check on the craft stores. I seem to remember it in the beading area.
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Excellent concept I will have to give this one a trial. Thank you!
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Old 02-28-2002, 12:31 PM
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JD and Moonlight:
1: I've never seen it in copper, so if you DO find it, lemme know.
2: I've busted 24 spiraling it up - careful not to make too many twists.
3: Wax the wire before dubbing it.
4: Color the wire with a Prismacolor pen
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Old 02-28-2002, 12:50 PM
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Thanks Dave, your points are well taken. I'll have to see if I can find stainless wire.

Striblue, To show you what a dubbing brush looks like after being wound on a fly heres a pic of my first experiment.

The dubbing brush was made with copper wire, some flash and 1 1/2" long pieces of polar fiber. the materials had to be combed out after beinmg tied on the hook. Not one of my best looking flies, but I will fish it.
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Got it... Thanks guys
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Old 02-28-2002, 03:30 PM
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JD, that's a kickin' lookin' fly

Wow - that sucker rivals Lolita - No, that little Evening Gown you dressed that up in is WAY hotter than Lolita!

But Lolita has prettier eyes:hehe:
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Old 02-28-2002, 08:41 PM
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