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Old 12-12-2001, 12:24 PM
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Question Squid Fly Colors

What color/ size squid fly have people had the most success with?

THe only color squid I've seen were milky white/ celar to tan to brown in color. These squid were flying out of the water with stripers right on their tail. About as stressed out/ defensive a squid could get!!
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Old 12-12-2001, 12:33 PM
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... I have too, but these are juvies for the most part in shallow water on the flats. In the rips when they are threatened they turn a brick red / dark. You can email Capt.Bruce Peters of Capeshores CHarters for great descriptions. He is a lifelong cape angler and has seen a lot of the big squid in the rips over the years. I know the guy who runs the weirs on Handerchief Shoal very well and can get some great firsthand info from John as well. When they run Nantucket sound the weirs are full of them.

That's why I went with the colors in my ripsquid pattern you got :P

I am interested to hear what others have to offer in this regard...
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Old 12-12-2001, 01:45 PM
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Juro, your point about the squid turning dark/brick red when stressed out or in trouble explains the success of the rust colored patterns that I've had luck with. I suppose if a striper sees a squid of this color, it may associate the reddish tones with a prey in distress and home in on it. (?)

As far as size goes, the patterns I've used have never had larger than a 4/0 hook, and most were 3/0. The overall length of the flies was anywhere from five to eight inches. The best pattern seemed to be the simplest: a modified seaducer with four to six hackles splayed as legs (instead of the pattern's usual two) in rust color with oversized eyes. I can't exactly remember how the extra legs were tied in to prevent tangles during the cast, but it worked awfully well.

BTW, I haven't seen stripers getting on squid in a long time. I'd love to get out there where I can see them jetting out of the water. Must be an awesome sight.
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Old 12-12-2001, 01:46 PM
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I haven't really used them much as a pattern but I have made some observations. One night while at Cordage park I saw some squid about a 10" long cruising very slowly under the lights. They were in groups of 3 or 5 and had a V-shaped formation like a flock of geese. The squid at cordage were over a rocky/muddy bottom but appeared paper white under the lights. Much to my dismay nothing was chasing them. It was interesting to watch them swim together, they all turned at the exact same moment as if they were wired together. I also noticed that they were swimming tentacles forward.
On another occasion I saw some much smaller specimens( 3-5" ) hanging very closely to a rocky barnacle/muscle covered bottom. I was in about thigh deep water at night using a light because the bottom was rather treacherous. I was noticing movement but couldn't really make out a shape until I just kept the light in one place thinking something would swim by. I recognized them as squid but was surprised how small they were. The colors I saw were dark red/brown with small spots that were different shades of the same basic color. The only reason I could even see them was because the fins? on the sides of their head? were moving, the tentacles were not moving at all. When spooked they took off like they were shot from a cannon, tentacles to the rear. Really cool creatures. I tie one squid in all white the other is multi colored earth tones but I don't fish them that often. I also have a couple of hot pink versions about 6" long which do well at times but I think of it more as an attractor pattern than a squid imitation.
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Old 12-12-2001, 01:57 PM
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Sorry that I have not posted my orig. squid pattern yet. What makes it different from existing squid patterns is the use of a nylon tube fly tube cut obliquely to extend the mantle well past the bend of the hook, allowing you to tie the mantle and legs in the same proportions as a real squid. Maybe I'll change the name from ripsquid to real squid to extend the real series

I will post it now.
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Old 12-12-2001, 02:59 PM
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Roopmeister...
Way back in the late 1900's I spent a fair amount of time around Sugar Reef (off WatchHill) trying to drive my boat and FF at the same time...so much for walking while chewing gum...
The best hits came when the bass were chasing squid...birds would scoop up fleeing calamari and colours would change from rootbeer to gold to cream to green to all gone. Absolutely brilliant! Tye a fly that does that and you will become an ICON.
Anyway...I did well with the white/cream 7-10" version that I gave to you at the Spring Clave...Big Bluefish crashed with wreckless abandon (and quickly destroyed) the pink version.
I'm going to do some rootbeer and brick red/brown 4-6" and 6-10" for winter "therapy" ...but can't start playing with any sharp or pointy tools until I'm off pain meds...go figure!?
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Old 12-12-2001, 03:54 PM
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Pete... do you really expect us to believe that one?
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Old 12-12-2001, 06:09 PM
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Old 12-12-2001, 07:03 PM
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Thanks guys.

The squid I saw, the milky white/ brown ones, were fleeing for their lives at Wasque this spring.

That's why I asked about others success, I had read about and seen (as well as received several beautiful specimens) some beautiful red, pink and white ones.

So, is the red squid an American legend? :hehe:
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Old 12-12-2001, 07:38 PM
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John, you gota start fly tying and stop spending hours on-line hunting down clipart and other questionable graphics Some of the recent ones were pretty cool though
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Old 12-12-2001, 09:21 PM
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I know what Pengui is talking about, the squid on Sugar Reef. I have two patterns I use. One, is the color white with red spots. The other is a quick imitation I made using purple crystal flash, which is almost a brick red. I took the RIMS club trophy a couple of years ago with the largest bluefish taken on a flyrod that year. It was taken on Sugar Reef., on the purple crystal flash fly. The day I caught the biggest one large bluefish were right on the top, cruising along chasing squid. Lots of fun with a flyrod.
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Ok, OK Pete.. I believe you... lets forget about the weapons.. No comment on the jet? Adrian.. went to First Light for the weekly flytying tonight and we did crease flies.. very simple except the cuting of the foam can make it a great job or horrible.

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Old 12-12-2001, 10:07 PM
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...sugar reef...

Art...I've heard it referred to as "the spindle"...Would you know what that mast/object on Sugar Reef is...When the squid are around and the bite is on, that was my centre of gravity!
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I've only had reliable success with the squid fly out at THE rip and there the squid is pretty much all I use. In decending order the most successful colors for me are: Orange, Brown, Pink, White - all with black spots and very large eyes and all in the 7 - 9 inch range.
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Old 12-13-2001, 12:05 AM
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Hawkeye -

I think you opened up the ceremonies with that big cow using a bright squid pattern just before things got out of hand in the rip. In fact now that I think about it I recall you hitting a lot of big fish in the rip with a squid!

Boy fo most of us the big rippah was a bit of a disappointment last year despite being the object of angling dreams the year before. I did have a 700 pound gray seal on for a minute though :eyecrazy:

It seemed every time the Estes went out they kicked butt, so it's a hit or miss thing and maybe we just hit HIT HIT last year?
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