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Old 12-09-2001, 09:10 PM
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How about Trey Combs ? Some great Steelhead history and river publications. Although he appears to be specialized and not a general overall historian of the sport and teacher. For Steelhead probably number one I would think to date. Check out his books if you have not and want to learn about steelheading. Thats what I started with in 1979.

Lefty Krey yes, although mainly saltwater species and also is not purely a fly fisherman. Will throw what ever it takes.

Whitlock, I forgot about it. Yes he is up there.

I guess now a days you have to specialize in something so maybe like in everything else generalists are not in.
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Old 12-10-2001, 04:18 PM
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Migrating from weight-forward leaders to thought leaders, Hal set out these criteria for entry into the flyfishing pantheon:
"Must be highly knowledgeable, well travelled, all aspects of fly fishing world wide, and an excellent oral and written communicator who advocates the history and preservation of the fly fishing sport."

I think John Cole, the author of "Striper" and editor of "West of Key West," stands out. So does the late Roderick Haig-Brown. Both these men write in a way that would make me seek out their company on a beach or river (obviously not possible with H-B). Their books teach us about the natural world and the human heart as well as about fishing.

I think the Keys guide Jeffrey Cardenas will be remembered 20 years on the way we're thinking here about Wulff and Schweibert and Brooks. Lou Tabory has certainly made made an extraordinary number of converts to flyfishing in the salt. So has Bob Popovics, whose fishing skills are complemented by questing curiousity and innovation in flycrafting. By no means a flyfishing purist, I think Nelson Bryant's tenure as the outdoor writer at the New York Times earns him a place on the list. An Airborne Ranger who dropped into France on D-Day, Bryant has since fished and shot all around the world and shared the experience in gracefully written Sunday columns describing and celebrating every kind of fly angling, an exemplar of the "greatest generation."

Probably a separate thread here, but great fun to think about. Who's next?

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Old 12-10-2001, 06:22 PM
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Thanks Broadbill there are some new names you mention I am not familiar with. But I have been away from the east coast for 23 years and also saltwater fishing, being here in Chicago.

Yes HB was a great one. I have a few of his books. Every Christmas season I read a few of his stories. Matter of fact I have pulled my Lee Wulf, Ernest Schwiebert, and Roderick Haig Brown books out of the book case to get acquainted with them again. Tis the season.

Will have to look up some of those men you mentioned.

Still not sure who would be the Wulff or Schwiebert replacements these days.

Do you know when Schwiebert passed away ? I missed that announcement some how.

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Old 12-10-2001, 07:03 PM
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PM and Broadbill beat me to it, but I would have included Trey ad Lou as well.. But you re right about specialist. My bend is more toward saltwater so I really can't bring up any Trout guys but two. If you use catagories. I would say Trey for Blue water. John Gierach for General trout knowledge, A.K. Best for trout flies, Taboury and Andy Caolo are equated to Stripers, Nick Curcione and Dan Blanton for saltwater, Mark Sedotti and George Roberts for fly casting. Dick Brown for BoneFish, Jack Gartside and Bill Catherwod for saltwater Fly tying, Nick Lyons for general literature, A local guy... Rich Murphy for Saltwater fly tying is on his way.. Billy Pate an Steve Abel for reels... I think I have to stop here but ,in my opinion, these are the names that will be spoken 100 years fom now when they look back on these times.... oh yes.. and Juro Mukai, for bringing flyfishermen together and forging great frendships... Who said fishing had to be solitary?
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Old 12-10-2001, 07:50 PM
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I guess there are a lot of regional and specialist names out there
but not sure if there is another icon like Wulff, Schwiebert, Roderick Haig Brown who could do all aspects of flyfishing and communicate it elegantly stating history and yet able to add new information and techniques to the sport. Every year at this time I pull out some of the old books of these greats and reread some of their great prose.

Not sure who I would go to the book store now and look to purchase a book in the category of these former greats.

Until then I will just reread the icons we know of.

Thanks for some new names to look to though.
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Old 12-10-2001, 08:19 PM
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You are right PM... the pioneers always take thr first place.. But what about Charles Ritz? I think I would include him although he did not do a lot of writing. It is interesting to speculate about the future and who will be considered icons later. I would equate a Joe Brooks for Saltwater flyfishing like Wulff for Salmon ,even though they both fished for other species.. what better reading is there than "Salmon of a Fly " by Wulff or " Saltwater Fly fishing" by Brooks. Hemmingway was a great fisherman but did not devote his life to the sport exclusively.
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Old 12-10-2001, 09:48 PM
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Yep, agree. How about Charles Waterman as one of the past icons, I forgot about him.

I have Wulff's book "Salmon on a Fly" right here. I think this was the last book he published before his death. Every couple of years I pull my old fly fishing books out and give them another read. Will also do some Schwiebert and Roderick Haig Brown over the holidays. Great reading and refreshes memory on the masters techniques.

I wonder if we took a poll on the board who the candidates would be for the current icons and how a vote would go.

Mayflyman is good with polls.

Maybe something to do over the holidays on the board when everyone will have some time?



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That would sound like fun and give everyone a good rendition on a number of folks.
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Poll, did someone say poll?

I'll see what I can do...
Thanks for the plug, pmff.
I'll start researching it asap.
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Old 12-11-2001, 06:07 AM
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Thanks maybe we should have a preliminary poll of who will be
on the poll for the contempory icon fly fisherman ?

I think it would be easy to come up with names for the past icons
Wulff, Schwiebert, Waterman, Haig Brown, etc...


I guess Lefty kreh should be one of the names. Not sure of the others yet

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I'll have to weigh in with my two choices:

First, Lefty Kreh. He has done so much for the sport that I won't even attempt to itemize his accomplishments. He can catch fish anywhere, and does not just specialize in salt water. In fact, his favorite fish to pursure, if he could only have one, is the smallmouth.

Second, Dave Whitlock. He is an author, artist, master fly tyer, excellent fisherman, teacher, and a great ambassador for the sport. He is another who can catch fish anywhere, fresh or salt. His illustrations in numerous fly fishing publications and books are wonderful, and he has earned many awards for his works in conservation.

Now what was the original topic? Leaders?
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Old 12-11-2001, 05:35 PM
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I totally agree that Lefty should be right up there.

Trey Combes must also get a vote for his definitive works on blue water flyfishing.

I would add Lou Taboury because it was the cover of his book (Inshore Flyfishing) in a London bookstore that sparked my interest in Saltwater Flyfishing.

In terms of past greats I would have to add Hugh Falkus on both Altlantic Salmon and Sea Trout (sea run browns). Another UK author who's written some very thought provoking ideas on Brown Trout would be John Goddard.
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...local icon...sorta'

...I've heard about a local Chatham guy who caught alot of fish this year...but what sets him apart from us common mortals is the fact that, in spite of driving rain, winds, Canadian cold fronts, and impending hypothermia, he never once donned "sissy" waders. They call him "Iron Alloy Man"...

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Old 12-11-2001, 07:55 PM
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Beleive Lefty Kreh and Dave Whitlock are two definites for the list.

Not sure of the other 2-3 for a poll.

Gary Borger ?

Eric Leiser ?

Did a quick seach on Amason Books for fly fishing books came up
with 1013 matches. Scan down the authors and you will see lots of names. Most of which I had heard of but I am not sure they could be considered icons like Wulff or Schiebert yet.
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If there is one person that exemplifies a flyfishing guru in our current time, it would be Lefty Kreh. I had the pleasure twice this year to spend some quality time with him to address some casting concerns that I had, particularly with sinking lines. He gave me some excellent tips; but more importantly, his wealth of knowledge on flytying, knots and general flyfishing knowledge, puts hime at the top of my list for "my hero."

He's 76, and I don't know how much longer he will be, the still young and energetic person that he is, willing to share his life-long knowledge on our passion.
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