Lessons Learned - 2001 Striper Season - Fly Fishing Forum
Stripers and Coastal Gamefish Stripers, Blues, Inshore tuna!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-30-2001, 06:18 PM
juro's Avatar
juro juro is offline
Coast2coast Flyfishaholic
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Steelhead country|striper coast|bonefish belt
Posts: 20,591
Lessons Learned - 2001 Striper Season

It's a bit early for this thread but here it is anyway...


Things noted:

Big fish stayed on the bayside flats pretty much all season
Early fishing in the inlets produced big fish consistently
Flats were schmokin... I love them hard to get
blues, blues, blues, everywhere
August was better for bonito, but not great for albies and spanish macs
Big girl happened, but she was a late bloomer this year
The Rip Trips never delivered like they did all last year
Although the spring thing on the North Shore was strong as usual, the mid-season was a no-show but...
Late season action on the North Shore delivered again for those who went out and got some!
[#] To fish Rhody, go in September, stay in the Sand Dollar, and make sure you arrive 'yesterday'
There is always a "secret spot" every year... and there always will be ;-)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 10-30-2001, 09:41 PM
Bob Pink Bob Pink is offline
Active Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 473
There's no place like Chatham/Monomoy (repeat 100 times!)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3  
Old 10-31-2001, 04:40 AM
FishHawk FishHawk is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 2,039
How critical the timing of the tide can be.
Cheap equipment (reels) will let you down when you when the fishing is hot.
Flats fishing lession*from Dave Pearson was awesome.
Try and find new waters to fish.
More kayak fishing.
Try and attend more claves.
That's it for me. I am still learning and trying to master the salt.
FishHawk
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4  
Old 10-31-2001, 06:56 AM
Nick's Avatar
Nick Nick is offline
Shark Bait
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Ahhhlington, MA (Boston)
Posts: 1,146
Send a message via AIM to Nick Send a message via Yahoo to Nick
When you sleep in the car, you are rewarded with HUGE fish!
Wait 20 seconds to strip, then wait 20 more.
Cast to ANYTHING that you think is moving.
Nothing beats time on the water.
Fish every time you can cause before you know it, its time for posts like these.

More later.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5  
Old 10-31-2001, 07:01 AM
bcasey's Avatar
bcasey bcasey is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 517
Flats and sight fishing at Monomoy CAN'T BE BEAT!!!, Thanks to Juro for the introduction to a season and an area that will be hard to beat as my best and most informative. And thanks to all the great friends I've made. You have all been a part of an incredible season. I've learned more than I can even think about right now, not enough time to reflect, I'll save that for the snowy days in January and February, And March, I'll save for bugging the hell outa you guys about how to handle the shack nasties attack. But, for now, I hear the ripple from the tail splash of a big redfish calling my name. Have a great Weekend everyone.
Your Friend,
__________________
CASE
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6  
Old 10-31-2001, 07:52 AM
Dble Haul's Avatar
Dble Haul Dble Haul is offline
Fly chucker
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: New England
Posts: 3,674
Big fish can be caught on surprisingly small flies.

Sometimes stripers actually jump when hooked (this happened to me twice this year, and it wasn't on the hookset).

Circle hook flies are very tough to hook stripers. Learning to simply tighten up on the line vs. the conventional hookset is tough!

Circle hook flies are pretty reliable for bluefish, especially at night. This is probably because of their habit of slashing at flies so hard.

The coast of Connecticut has some pretty tough access, but not as tough as some would lead you to believe.

Rhode Island has so much to offer! This was my first season fishing the coast of the state, and I already have a laundry list of other spots that I want to hit.

Bonito and false albacore are fussy.

Can't wait for next year.

Mark
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7  
Old 10-31-2001, 09:02 AM
Lefty's Avatar
Lefty Lefty is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: North Shore, Ma.
Posts: 1,850
High tide into outgoing at dawn rocks on the No. Shore
Night fishing on the No. Shore stinks (maybe not for Eel slingers)
A 15 hp Merc (modern one) pushes a 14' tin boat like crazy
Squires is noisy on Friday nights
speaking of Chatham, it's a real loooong drive from the No. Shore and evan longer when the catching is off
There are lots of boat ramps and shore access on the No. Shore if one wants to look hard
The web board reports have dried up this year due to people wanting to protect their spots. But the FFF continues to be a place where FFmen can exchange ideas and other useful information

Lefty
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8  
Old 10-31-2001, 11:28 AM
Roop Roop is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Any
Posts: 1,260
You can learn a lot from anyone you fish with

Karma plays an important role

Is your hook sharp? - thanks Jim S

The number of fish you catch is in direct proportion to the amount of time your fly is in the water.

The fish are there, you're just not doing the right thing if you're not catching them.

You only really need 2, maybe 3, at the most 4 flies.

The world looks much better through polarized lenses.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9  
Old 10-31-2001, 11:56 AM
John Desjardins John Desjardins is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Central MA
Posts: 1,839
I relearned this one. An infant in the house means much less fishing time than you would like.
__________________
John Desjardins
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10  
Old 10-31-2001, 12:14 PM
jared's Avatar
jared jared is offline
BB5 Survivor
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: parts unknown
Posts: 474
something to ponder when the season is actually over....

--j
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #11  
Old 10-31-2001, 01:44 PM
Adrian's Avatar
Adrian Adrian is offline
Flats Rat
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Connecticut/New England
Posts: 2,952
Sight fishing Stripers on the Flats is a blast .... 8)

Stripers will "Rise" to a sub-surface fly on a floating line 8)

The best fish of the day is the one you spook lying in inches of water as you jog along the shoreline to that "HotSpot"

The second best fish of the day is the one that sneaks up behind you on the flats

Big Tides = Big Rips 8)

Must meet up with 'Dble Haul' and talk about fishing CT
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #12  
Old 10-31-2001, 02:55 PM
Dble Haul's Avatar
Dble Haul Dble Haul is offline
Fly chucker
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: New England
Posts: 3,674
Adrian- Feel free to e-mail me or send me a private message. I've only fished the CT shore for two seasons, but have found some fairly reliable spots. As always, I'm open to the experiences of others, so if you know some spots, maybe we can compare notes.

Mark
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #13  
Old 10-31-2001, 05:43 PM
FredA's Avatar
FredA FredA is online now
Middle Aged Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Bicep to elbow
Posts: 1,859
Things can be different in a location from year to year. Started scouting my favorite bayside area religously the first week of May 2000 - it was sterile until the end of June (at least when I was there). This year I stood among fish mid day in May and saw the same thing every time I returned through June. Just didn't return enough.

Sometimes you need a "thanks I needed that" slap in the face. Got one a couple of weeks ago when Juro pointed out some structure changes. Tiger stripes. Kinda like "throwing paint" or "flipping a meatball with a plastic fork" with respect to casting. You know and understand intellectually but not intuitively as you would by experience or just the right analogy.

Got to get rid of my loser fall run attitude.

Go with my instincts.

The root of my addiction is the concept of sight fishing.

and a bunch of other cliches'.

Mostly, I've got an awful lot to learn.

Fred A.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #14  
Old 11-01-2001, 11:16 AM
Eroach Eroach is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 58
Try a fresh approach to fishing "unproductive" waters in your own "back yard."
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #15  
Old 11-01-2001, 01:07 PM
jeffg jeffg is offline
Active Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Boston
Posts: 203
let's see...

--work and fishing do not mix (repeat 100 times)
--I suck at bonito and albie fishing
--Thomas rods, while beautiful, break very easily
--Redington reels are still great, despite everything on the internet I read to the contrary
--geographic fisheries can change dramatically from season to season (esp. the west end of the canal and Boston Harbor)
--9 out of 10 times, fly color and style is irrelevant compared to general size, depth fished and retrieve technique
--a good fishfinder/depthsounder can be your best friend
--scup and seabass will readily take a fly
--friends who get married in landlocked locations during the peak fishing season are really not your friends
--I suck worse at meeting up with other fishermen on the water than I do at albie fishing
--I boat fish too much, although I consider it a necessary evil
--where is this Chatham place?
--bluefin tuna come VERY close to shore some years but are wiley
--this fall, on the whole, was windy and disappointing
--work sucks (i actually learned this lesson a long time ago, it's just worth repeating).
--the season is not over.
--I caught very few fish under 18" this year and it is a little disturbing.

Jeff
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Fly Fishing Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
quivet saturday-lessons learned nmbrowncom Stripers and Coastal Gamefish 7 06-21-2010 03:16 PM
Lessons already learned! juro Stripers and Coastal Gamefish 5 05-14-2002 09:49 AM
Lessons Learned juro Stripers and Coastal Gamefish 10 11-03-2000 11:17 AM
Lessons learned timwatts Stripers and Coastal Gamefish 7 09-13-2000 07:51 PM
Lessons Learned Aaron Stripers and Coastal Gamefish 2 07-09-2000 07:02 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:13 PM.



Copyright Flyfishingforum.com (All Rights Reserved)