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Old 05-06-2011, 02:27 PM
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How Much Flash

Hi guys,
I'm just wondering how much flash you tie into your standard 6 inch Clousers ?
I look forward to your replies.
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Old 05-06-2011, 03:24 PM
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Depends on light level you're planning to use them, bright sunlight, none, for reduced light or darkness, a few strands, like 5 or 6, this is assuming a fairly sparse tie, more if you're making them denser. In bright light you can substitute with several strands of one of the sparkly synthetics like slinky fiber which reflects light in small bits rather than large flashes.
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Old 05-06-2011, 04:27 PM
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Standard clousers - like olive over white, blue over white , I use four strands of pearl Krystal flash.

Flats clousers - like all tan or olive over white, none.
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:07 PM
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Mark...ditto for me re the above...this yr I am experimenting with a darker color flash...a bluish/green......I personally don't use it for an attractant (never on tan/flats flies although that is a choice), I use it to mimic the latteral line than a sand eel has.
Talking 6 inchers..my guess is that your are planning on fishing rips/beach and or shore. 4 inchers will work too. In those situations...color is something to consider...I tend to use brighter colors...chatreous for those situations (darker more turbulent water) with one exception.......Bay Side....I was once advised by Craig I think, to use dark gray over light gray...5 inch sand eels....he was right.
Walking bay side flats...you will almost always push up very gray/fat sand eels.
Then again, my fishing bud uses chartreous on the flats and out fishes me almost every time. he feels...when there is a lot of bait...his stands out. So sometimes, breaking the rule helps. that should clear it up
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Old 05-07-2011, 12:47 AM
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Thanks for all your excellent advice.
When I come over im going to be fishing a variety of marks so have been tying a variety of flies.
There are a couple of varieties you mentioned that I haven't tied up yet.
I must admit I have never enjoyed tying that much regardless of the type of fly that I'm tying. It's a bit of a slog having to tie this many up for a trip and I keep making excuses up not to do it. I can see sone frantic sessions coming up over the next few weeks.
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Old 05-07-2011, 10:19 AM
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Couple thoughts come to mind...

- you can always remove flash but you can't add it. I often adjust on the spot

- if you can pack a basic tying kit you can use what you see to tie something for the next day too
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Old 05-07-2011, 02:06 PM
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Juro,
I'm sure we will meet at the bar sometime on our visit.
Thanks for the couple of points you mentioned. It did cross my mind to bring some basic tying stuff. If I carry on tying flies at my current rate I won't have an option.
Good point on the flash, thanks.
Not long now.
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among others... you might want to consider...

Bug-Bond and Tuffleye FLEX...









Caution: professional driver on a closed course... results may vary

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Old 05-07-2011, 04:21 PM
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Penguin,
Are you trying to send me to an early grave !
I have enough problems tying up enough Clousers let alone trying to copy your excellent patterns.
I must admit though that Bugbond stuff makes some nice looking patterns.
I'm going to stick to Clousers and Half and Halfs(for night fishing)in my own hand. I might buy a few crab and popper patterns as I can't be bothered to try tying them up. I know I sound lazy but it's tough finding time at the moment with a young family etc..
Either that or I will nick my fishing partners flies instead
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Old 05-07-2011, 04:46 PM
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Penguin,
Either that or I will nick my fishing partners flies instead
What makes you think I have been tying flies I was planning on nicking yours
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Old 05-07-2011, 05:08 PM
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Ha,ha caught red handed.

I thought you was having problems posting on here Gary?
One of us is going to have to tie up some extra flies and it ain't looking like me

It's either that or we 'borrow' some flies from the locals when we come over
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Old 05-07-2011, 05:54 PM
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Mark,

I was having a problem posting but that is resolved.

As to flies I' have tied a few there,s not much else to do down here in the winter
about 300 on the last count whether they will work is another matter.

Penguin they are some really nice ties, must admit I have used a fair amount of BB
recently but my results don't compare.

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Old 05-09-2011, 03:42 AM
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Mark and Garry,

What ever you bring over you won't have enough of the single pattern that catches. PJ brought over his fly tying kit last year. Your clothes packed in the same bag smell great of moth balls and Buck Tails.
Me after long days and night fishing I can't see my hands let alone see well enough to tye flies. But you have youth on your side.
FWIW I slap about 4 to 6 strands of Kyrsyal flask or the DNA stuff if its to hand.
Those flies Penguin tyes are sick and they just made me sick as yet again my lack of skill as a Tyer has been exposed.
Now I am an unemployed retired Bum and I have so little time. How you Guys manage with a wife, kids and a job beats me. I used to but I don't know how thinking back. mind age helps here as you can't remember very much about what happened yesterday let alone a year or two back. I try and tye about 6 flies a day. It would not be such a chore if the materials were of better quality. It is annoying spending precious time tying and having to work with Buck Tail that is only good enough for surf casting jigs. Just where can we get long, slender and soft buck tails from.

See you Guys at The Old Landings.

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i'll be bringing the flytying kit again this year- it helps with the OCD.

it only usually comes out if the weather blows up or Mike harps on about a must have fly of the day

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Old 05-09-2011, 09:32 AM
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Mike,

Thanks for the info,much appreciated.
We will indeed be seeing at the OLd Landings soon.

What with Gary already tying up 300 flies and PJ bringing his kit i won't be needing any more flies anyway

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Mark
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