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Old 01-15-2011, 09:15 PM
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For a minute I thought I'd need a PhD in particle physics with a minor in math, but you've got Canal tides fully sussed. I'll follow you. Thanks for the detailed explanation



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MConfused?The simplest way is to look at a tide chart for the canal,for example if low tide is at 6:00 am the tide will change to an east directional flow at 4:15 am ,if high tide is at 12:00 noon at the west end the tide will change to a westerly direction at 10:15 am.
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Old 01-15-2011, 09:53 PM
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I think Paul was trying to also explain that the bayside tides can be three feet higher or lower than the sound side - so slack tide occurs at zero exchange of water, not at low tide...

It's not ya average bear.
That's correct,when ever there is a directional current flow change there will be a brief moment or two of very little water movement or slack.During astronomically high or low tides occurring with a new or full moon phases there will be times when the current doesn't stop,it will begin to flow in the opposite direction while still flowing in the other,within a few moments it will all be flowing in the same direction.Whats kind of neat is you can be fishing river right one moment then fishing river left the next without moving.
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Paul, good info for us that don't know, but want to learn more about the potential in the canal. It is pretty intimidating to the uninitiated. With a minus low at 8a.m. on Friday, May 20th, at the East End, looks like the right conditions. What do you think?
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Old 01-16-2011, 02:12 PM
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Paul, good info for us that don't know, but want to learn more about the potential in the canal. It is pretty intimidating to the uninitiated. With a minus low at 8a.m. on Friday, May 20th, at the East End, looks like the right conditions. What do you think?
But ; this makes for a perfect set up,get there early way before dawn(around 3:00 am or earlier) to claim your spot and fish the whole ebbing tide.
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Old 01-16-2011, 05:13 PM
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Caught my first striper on a 2 hander last summer, and I'd love to do this - count me in!

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Old 01-25-2011, 09:42 PM
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I have had interest in seeing someone fish this method in the canal for a while now and hope to be able to attend at least to see how it is done. I hope the timing works. Thank you for initiating this!
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:10 AM
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I have had interest in seeing someone fish this method in the canal for a while now and hope to be able to attend at least to see how it is done. I hope the timing works. Thank you for initiating this!
Somewhere in my increasingly aging mind, I recall you were looking to get into the 2 hand world ,have you dove in yet?
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:50 AM
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Actually I am surprised you remembered that. I dropped you a note a while back about my interest. We never connected and no I have not invested in any equipment yet.

The closest I have come is to pickup one of Ken Abrames Salmo Saxitilus rods with the optional oversized butt feature. He markets them as being able to be used as two handers but I really don't know how realistic that is.

The one thing I do have is a copy of Simon Gawsworth's book on Casting.
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Don't worry Jeff: it's as easy as driving an iceboat.
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Thanks for the affirmation. Though that hasn't been too easy lately with all the gosh darn snow. We have been getting out some like this past weekend on Great Herring Pond...
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Old 01-29-2011, 07:13 AM
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I discovered the canal this past season (as if it was not always there :-) ). I fished a couple of times at the cape cod bay end right at the brakewater/beach. Always brought the fly/spey rod but ended up throwing plugs. The fishing there was amazing. I saw the biggest stripers I have ever seen caught. And lots of them. I only had limited success due to lack of the necessary tackle or bad timing. We showed up there one morning at 5am only to watch several fisherman walking back to their cars dragging fish and stating that the last 2 hours were crazy.
My buddies and I are building ditchsticks (surf rods) this winter. I am primarily a fly guy but if all the action is too far away I have no problem switching tackle.

Count me in for a May outing. Have have a couple of extra spey rods and an extra switch rod if people want to borrow them. My two hand casting skills suck right now but I plan on getting lessons in the spring and a lot of practice. If anyone wants to build their own two hand rod, you can put one together for about $130 and a couple hours of work. The real expense if the lines. Get help lining your rod because most of the lines are about $100 for a complete line. Less for a shooting head.

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Old 01-29-2011, 01:38 PM
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Update on making your own spey rods. Utmost Enterprises has a bunch of blanks for $35. They also have lots of fly blanks for CHEAP. If you ever wanted to try to build something or looking for a backup this is a great opportunity. Just received 3 blanks and they look good.

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Old 02-06-2011, 10:37 AM
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Quinn,

$35 is seriously cheap for any blank. Do you know whose blanks they are. I build rods and the investment in time is not worth it if the blanks are not reliable or they do not cut it performance wise.

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Old 02-06-2011, 10:49 AM
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PEC54,

You are going to fill the Canal with feather flingers. This will truley confuse and amaze the regular Ditch Trolls.

I can't understand why some of the Guys find the Canal so intimidating. It is way smaller than the ocean LOL. It will take a bit of effort working out where to be for a given tide but that comes with a bit of persaverence and fishing effort. No different than fishing a new beach mark and a lot safer than fishing the north side flats.

I hope everyone who joins you has a real blast. It should be a splendid sight of all those long rods laying out their lines in the early morn. Be a unique scene.

Mike
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Old 02-06-2011, 12:43 PM
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Meeting will be where, on which end, and about what time?
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