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Old 07-07-2007, 05:33 PM
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We fished the York zone 6 and the St.-Jean section 1 for 4 days June 29 to July 2. The water and weather conditions were perfect. We hooked 7 and released 4. Really can't complain about that success, but with perfect river conditions and a full moon to boot, there should been a lot more salmon in the rivers. We fished the Matapedia July 4 and 5 without any success at all. I had a salmon rise for a bomber once and that was the only one we saw.

We talked to Charles Cusson Director of Quebec Programs for the ASF. He says the pack ice in the Straights of Belle Isle and the Labrador coast has delayed the normal salmon runs and they will eventually show up in their home rivers. I hope he's right.

Pierre(salar36), we met your friend Rene on the Matapedia at the pool that has no name or number and where you caught the 30 pounders last September. He ties the most beautiful Wulff style bombers I hae ever seen.
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Old 07-08-2007, 01:18 AM
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Good Evening Mr. Fletcher!

Ah!! Great to read you again !!
Again this season we've met (at the same pool as usual.. ) shh!!!

I totally agree with your report!


Even though the fish are a little late this season, we are fishing over fish everyday.since the opening...
(today..landed 2 salmon on your "our") favorite river!!!

Having a great time and enjoying the season!!!

Here are a few pics .....



Have a great Summer...


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Old 07-08-2007, 04:13 PM
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Hi folks,

Glad to hear that you had a good trip Earl and that Anne is fishing over fish because things here have been pretty tough in the Baie des Chaleurs since the start of the season.

I am not sure what to think other than the fish are really late this year. Things started off pretty slow for most rivers as far as I have been hearing from friends and other guides. Over the past week things seem to want to pick up but there is still a lack of fish in some rivers. As an eternal optimist, I am counting on a good mid July run and August run of fish along with a decent number of September arrivals.

The reports I have gotten out of Gaspe from other guides is that things are real slow there but then again, I have not fished there since the 7th of June. I know that the Pabos and Grande Riviere are doing better than most rivers lately and I had a chance to discover the Pabos Ouest and Grand Pabos Nord this past week and caught a nice fresh fish and had lots of other action to boot! Floated the public sector on the Pabos Nord, VERY BEAUTIFUL water! Caught a nice trout and saw a couple of fish but the river was on the rise and dirty so I could not really check out all of the water and I am sure I missed some fish on my way down. Very cool river to check out!

The Petite has been holding its own since the season opener on the 15th and keeps getting a few more fish each day. The Grand Cascapedia started slow and is now gaining a bit of momentum on the main river but the two branches remain a bit slow at the moment. A few fish have been caught on the canoe beat in the salmon branch for the past couple of weeks.

Water levels on the Petite are perfect! The Bonnie water levels are very good and the water on the Grand Cascapedia seems to be a decent level as well. The Pabos and Grande Riviere are in excellent shape.

I fished the Matapedia two days ago on sectors 1 and 3 and did not see anything moving except for anglers back and for the between pools. The stats I got from the Matapedia office said they were getting between 8 and 15 fish a day out of 110 rods a day. I went there hearing a small push of fish were entering the river but did not find them myself. Water levels seem to be getting a bit low according to a couple of local anglers I spoke with.

I am not too sure about what decisions some of the river managers will be taking if fish do not show up soon in regards to going Catch and Release! It might be prudent in a strange year like this one to be on the cautious side of things and shut down the killing instead of gambling on later arrivals to justify a recreational harvest of salmon. Of course, it is not my call to make; however, it would seem that with such a poor start to the year it would be crystal clear what the RIGHT thing to do would be, even if it does mean pissing a few people off. Any intelligent and caring person would understand why we need to release all fish this year. Anyway, it is not my call so I will let the powers that be decide what our fate will be in the future!

Even with tough fishing we are all having a ball and doing our best! After all, it is salmon fishing and we all should know that there are good years and poor years to contend with in this game.

A great season and frowning rods to you all,

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Old 07-09-2007, 01:46 PM
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Ann,
It's good to hear you are having a decent season out at Gaspé!

David,
I was thinking I might run into you down at the 87 mud hole, but only had a brief encounter with a sea run there instead.

We had good water conditions the last week of June for our trip. No salmon in 3 days on the Cascapedia for me or my wife, except that I burned one on the dangle on my last day. Guess I've been doing too much trout fishing here at home! Did get a couple other good sea runs on the lake branch.

Sad to see so many of the rather few fish on the Bonaventure being bonked... Hope they go catch and release in August if not sooner! Even on Cascapedia the only 3 fish I heard of caught on the wading pools when I was there were all bonked, even a 30+ lb hen. Doh! Did Homer Simpson take up salmon fishing?

Will be back in September to fish a couple of the rivers at least. Fingers crossed for improved returns.

Ian.
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:25 PM
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Hi Earle, yep, I have seen René 1 week ago. You fished my secret pool ?

I was on the Matapedia last week end and things were going well. The fact is with the water level and temperature, fish are moving up very fast and don't stop, even in the Glenn Emma. Saturday, I caught 1, and Sunday, I fished in sector 1 and saw more than a dozen fish jump, all going upriver. Lot of activities on Adams and Forks. Stats show between 9 and 15 per day in public water and 8 to 10 in Glenn Emma.

On the Matane, water is a bit low, but they are currently in advance with last year and the average number with more than 425 fish moved upriver. Many big fish, some much higher than 30, and I have seen a monster probably over 40 just bellow the dam yesterday. Very few grilse until now there too.

Last week, Ste Marguerite in the Saguenay had one if his most interesting run of very big salmon for many years, and is currently waiting for the second run, should be there this week end with the new moon .

Ste Anne shows stats much higher than usual, and seems on the way for one of his best season since the beginning of 90's.

Rimouski (in recovery) has already registered 17 released fish, a lot of fish missed and lost, and a bunch of more than 30 fish has been seen below the lower dam (tidal water) this week end. They ebgin to see grilses there. In this case, the water level is still interesting, compared with Matane and Ste Anne which are low.
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Old 07-10-2007, 07:42 PM
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Pierre, glad to hear the salmon runs on the Gaspe have improved since we left last Friday-----wouldn't you know it. I caught my first salmon on the Matapedia in upper Adams Pool in !972, shortly after the upper Matapedia was made open to the public by the Quebec Government. My second salmon came from the no name pool. A mere 20 pounder which took me down into Salmon Hole before we could land it
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:03 AM
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Pierre,

Good to hear that things have improved on the Matapedia... up until last week when I fished it and checked into the Matapedia office I was told that about 6-10 fish for 100 - 110 rods a day were being taken. I am glad to see it is improving! I am also very happy about your good reports on the other rivers like the Matane aned Ste-Anne, which I will be fishing this year for the first time! Really looking forward to that. Any reports about the Madeleine and the Cap Chat? Would like to fish those too if they are seeing any fish.

The fishing has picked up on the Petite and Grand Cascapedia Rivers but I have not gotten any reports on the Bonaventure in the past two days. Hope it is starring to improve.

Not seeing tons of fish but enough to fish over. Water levels here are great still - which helps a lot! Got a nice 23 pound fish today on the Petite.

Cheers and good fishing to you.

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Old 07-11-2007, 06:10 AM
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David,

The number I have seen for Madeleine is lower than last year and 5 years average, but you would be better to validate with the ZEC for the last number, it was a week ago.

For Cap Chat, a riend of mine went to look at the river this week end ad haven't seen any fish. Nothing in Magone and nothing in Cameron. So it seems to be slow, water is low there.
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Old 07-16-2007, 07:32 PM
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Pierre,

Merci pour le "update" bien apprecier!

Things have started to get pretty darned good on the Petite and Grand Cascapedia Rivers over the past week! Fish pretty much everywhere and spread out. have not seen such good water levels on the Petite in about 10 years! Hard to wade a lot of the river but with a canoe you are golden!

Fished for myself on the Petite B sector on the 14th and felt 4 fish on the line plus two trout. Ended up landing two and had one drop off at my feet.

I am heading to the Bonaventure D sector on the 17th and will fish the Salmon Branch on the 18th and will give a non-biased report of what I see and how we do. Have been hearing that it is also picking up a bit.

Any news from the Matane and down towards Gaspe??? Would like to hear how that is.

Have been hearing good things about the Matapedia as of late as well.

Looks like they were just a bit late!

Frowning rods to you all!

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Old 07-16-2007, 09:14 PM
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David:

Regarding the Matane, I am just from there (2 days and 1 days on teh Ste Anne). They passed under last year number yesterday, due to the high level of water, as usual with same condition, fish have trouble to find the fishway. Other reason, only 16 grilses on around 575 fish. We hope they are late, if not, it will be catastrophic for next year.

On the Ste Anne - lower section-, we were 4 friends, hooked 5 salmons (all between 10 to 15 pounds) and 2 trouts (5 - 5 1/2 pounds). Water is perfect, and we have seen fish in all the pools we fished. No grisles there too.

I am leaving for an other trip on the Patapedia, we got a last minute cancelation. News next week.

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Old 07-17-2007, 06:30 PM
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Hi Folks, Jim Corrigan here with a quick report about the Atlantic salmon fishing trip that Axel Larsen and I took to the three great rivers at Gaspé-town.

We were on the water for nine full and two half-days (July 3-13). We fished multiple days on each of the Dartmouth, York and St. Jean rivers. The water levels were excellent-high on the York and St. Jean, but very low on the Dart. It was cool, cloudy and quite rainy for many of our fishing days (GREAT!), with the tragic exception of our mostly sunny days on the water-starved Dartmouth.

The word is out that the fishing has been very tough on the Gaspesié this year. We did find it harder than in some other years, but ended up getting six fish to the net and missing seven other hooked fish. It was ‘one of those trips’ for mysterious pullouts, although Axe and I each lost a 20+ lb fish to (avoidable?) breakoffs. Most of our caught fish came from spots that had been kind to us in the past. For whatever reasons, these places did fish tougher than in other years, but they still yielded up their chances to the hard-working angler. The Sea trout were running, and we tangled up with some beauties on both the York and St. Jean rivers.

Some things never change …

We quickly fished ourselves into semi-exhaustion and decided that we needed to slow down … next year … maybe …

Everybody around the ZEC Gaspe, the Fort Ramsey Motel and McDonalds (our personal trip caterer) were fantastic! We had many nice conversations with the ZEC Wardens, Sports and Guides we met at the pools. We saw many old friends and made some new ones.

It was a great salmon trip … we are already planning for next year. I’m working on an idea for a fly to fish on the slow-water pools … it will be called the Mini-Miramichi Greenie.

I have circulated a few photos from our trip among friends, some of whom are Flytalk Forum members and are far more web-literate than I. If one of you wants to post a few of my pictures into this thread, please go for it (I’ve never figured out how to upload pixies to this site).

With excellent water levels still holding through mid-July in most Gaspe rivers, I’m guessing that anglers going down east in the next few weeks will run into some very good fishing.

Keep those trip reports coming!

Jim

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Old 07-18-2007, 01:22 AM
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I have a question-slightly off topic

I mean this respectfully so please do not take offense. I want to fish for Atlantic Salmon and am trying to understand the difference between Pacific Steelhead and Atlantic Salmon fishing.

If I understand you correctly, you hooked 13 and landed 6 salmon between two of you in 10 days. You said you had a "great salmon trip". My question is: Are these numbers normal, good, poor or very poor?

Don't get me wrong, I have had plenty of bagels, but for summer run steelhead on a dry line I expect to be 2/3 or 2/4 on the dry line either with skaters or greased line. These sound like winter steelhead numbers when you are fishing 2-3C water.

Thanks, and again, I am just trying to understand what an "average day" for a skilled angler is like on the Gaspe.
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:03 AM
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Jim
Regarding your breakoffs .Were you using Rio's Powerflex by chance ?
I had serious issues with their 13lb and15lb crap( lost a couple of REALLY nice fish) ,however the 10 ,20 and 8.2 lb has been excellent !
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:29 AM
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Mark,
Looking at annual stats for the Bonaventure for the past 20 years, the success rate (fish per rod-day) varies from a high of 0.43 to a low of 0.19. I believe this is fairly typical, and Jim's trip was 0.33 fish/rod-day or smack in the middle.

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I mean this respectfully so please do not take offense. I want to fish for Atlantic Salmon and am trying to understand the difference between Pacific Steelhead and Atlantic Salmon fishing.

If I understand you correctly, you hooked 13 and landed 6 salmon between two of you in 10 days. You said you had a "great salmon trip". My question is: Are these numbers normal, good, poor or very poor?

Don't get me wrong, I have had plenty of bagels, but for summer run steelhead on a dry line I expect to be 2/3 or 2/4 on the dry line either with skaters or greased line. These sound like winter steelhead numbers when you are fishing 2-3C water.

Thanks, and again, I am just trying to understand what an "average day" for a skilled angler is like on the Gaspe.
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:28 PM
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I've been on trips where I went 0/0,3/0 ,1/1 to 12 /11 and wouldn'y trade ANY of them .Quality fishing is just that ,quality fishing . Quebec's Salmon fishing whether in Gaspe or te North Shore is all of that =quality World class fishing !
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