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Old 01-19-2007, 07:28 AM
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big pattern tube flies-how to?

i just realised that the forum does not have a section for general fly tieing, so i hope that this is the right location for a question. i do a trip to the amazon for peacock bass each year. this year i'm lucky enough to be doing 2! in order to consistantly catch big fish on the fly, big patterns (6"-8") with a broad profile are usually required. there are 2 problems-casting being the odvious first, and short strikes being the second. i've experimented a lot and have kind of settled in on flat wing flies because they are so light if not aerodynamic. for those of you with familiarity with tube flies, i'm wonderring if they are or can be effective in such large patterns and, any info on "how to" and what materials etc. would be appreciated. i've never tied them and am generally unfamiliar with them. can they be incorporated into a flat wing pattern?
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Old 01-19-2007, 10:06 AM
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The problem with big tube flies, or at least a problem I've had, is that the hook can get in the way of any long material you tie in for a tail.

My way around it, is to tie most of the length onto the rear hook, and the body on the tube.

My favorite pattern is a type of Buffy/Deceiver where I tie the saddle hackles (or schalappen) flash, and bucktail to a circle hook. Then tie a spreader, with polar fiber and syn-yak to a tube.

The pattern works well for stripers (although there are simpler ties that likely work just as well.

Another way to get similar results is to tie the tail materials to a thick piece of mono, this offers the benefit of not being able to rotate around itself like a tube fly can.
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Old 01-19-2007, 05:25 PM
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Do a search...

Try using the "search" function and type in Dual Tube for starters...

As I recall, there are a few posts regarding large tube flyz and herring patterns...gotta' go diggin'
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:33 AM
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Another possibility...

The Owner Oversize 7/0 #5110-171 would allow for a large phlatwing style profile with a keel hook application...
Here is a large tube phly (L) and an easier to tye hook-up-herring (R)...less apt to foul on weeds, messels, whatever...Both technical and challenging but worth it!
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Old 01-23-2007, 12:03 AM
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I tie exclusively on tubes for salt and all anadromous fish. I have never had any problems with fouling or short strikes. Just a question are you using the flexible tubing to hold the shank of your hook out from the tube? And are you using tube fly hooks?
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Old 01-23-2007, 07:02 AM
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jhicks, my post probably wasn't so clear. i have never tied a tube fly before and was wonderring (1) if they can be tied in large (6"-8") patterns; (2) can they be effective in a flatwing style, and (3)are they a solution to a "short strike" problem. thanks
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