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Old 01-11-2007, 03:40 PM
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Tarpon line

I've got two questions for the tarpon experts on this board. What is the best fly line for these fishes in a 12wt. Anyone ever use power pro (spectra) as backing. What is the best knot to attach it to fly line. I've always used an albright. Just wandering if anything is better.
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Old 01-11-2007, 05:12 PM
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1. Rio makes excellent tarpon lines, both floaters and intermediate sinktips.
2. I use Bionic Braid on larger reels. Its pricey, but round and the 65lb gives me about 50 per cent more backing than 30lb dacron.
3. Because of the slippery nature and brittleness of this type of line, knots correctly tied are critical to insuring no compromise. The arbor knot should be a 60-turn bimini, wrapped around the spool twice and then a 12-turn uni-knot to seat it on the spool. The attachment to the flyline should be a 60-turn bimini and a double surgeons for a double line on the flyline. If the flyline doesn't have a loop, then a 50lb braid loop with a double catch should be used - loop-to-loop between backing and flyline.
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Old 01-12-2007, 07:34 AM
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I normal use SA tarpon lines but have recently been using a Sage Equator Taper to go with my xi2.
I personally don't like Rio lines as I find they can burn fingers when stripping or with a hard take.

The SA lines are very good and the Sage is perfect with a Sage rod.

For backing I usually use normal 30lb Dacron. I don't really like the very thin stuff as it can also cause finger cuts.

For a connection I make a loop in the fly line and connect it loop to loop to a bimini made in the backing.

The loop in the fly line is made by stipping the coating from 3-4 inches of fly line. First by soaking it in nail varnish remover for a few minutes and the stripping it off with a finger nail.
I then make a loop in the stripped line and whip it with normal fly tying nylon.
I then seal it with a flexible glue.

This method has never failed me even with fish up to 150lbs.

The advantage of this method over an albright is that it slips easily through the guides.

I hope that is clear. If not I will try to give a better explanation.

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Old 01-12-2007, 10:37 AM
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I know this sounds stupid. I might not be thinking it thru. How do you do the loop to loop with fly line and backing. I hear this is a fast way to attach lines. Do you have to do it like a leader to fly line.
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I hope I can make this a little clearer.

You make the loop at the end of the fly line as explained.
Then tie a bimini in the backing, this loop can be quite large so that you can get the reel through it, then connect the fly line loop through the backing loop.
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Old 01-13-2007, 09:33 AM
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I then make a loop in the stripped line and whip it with normal fly tying nylon.
I then seal it with a flexible glue.


How do you do this.
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Old 01-13-2007, 10:12 AM
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Old 01-13-2007, 11:09 AM
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thanks I've been looking the web over for this
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Old 01-13-2007, 02:07 PM
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An easy and not so messy way to strip the coating off the fly line is to take a few inches of dacron backing and throw a half hitch over the fly line, come tight about three inches from the end, and quickly yank the dacron off the end of the fly line. It will leave just the core which can then be served into a loop with rod wraping thread and a bit of Zapagap.
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Old 01-15-2007, 12:50 PM
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Just for reference. I just got off the phone with the guy from power pro. He said sportfishing magazine did an article in the fall on braided lines. He said the bimini twist should only be 11-14 turns in power pro. This is what power pro's tech guy told me.
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That's interesting. Why is that?
I normally use a normal bimini of 20 turns. However on some reels there is normal daxron and on others there is the really thin stuff. I think it is called micro something . I am not sure.

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I have a floating Rio line for my 10 wt which I love but I also want a int. sinking or sink tip. My rod is an XI2. This will be for Keys Tarpon. Any rec. fellas?

Petevicar- I heard the same as you in regards to a bimini w/ power pro. I can't remember where I read it but I'm 95% sure it was written by Lefty K. I'm sure if I looked I could find it.
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I just did a pelagic setup for a customer of mine and I used 12 turns for the bimini in PowerPro. It sure made me nervous because it doesn't look like much when you're done. However, I read the article and the results seemed pretty conclusive. Since that customer is going with me to Guatemala for sailfish in three weeks I'll get to find out first hand if it works. I'm bringing along an extra flyline for him just in case!

By the way, Lefty did not write that. He just answered a question in a recent issue of FFSW and recommended 60 or more turns to create a bimini in GSP. The problem with that many turns is getting everything tightened down evenly. I sure hope the 12 turn version works because it is a much easier way to tie one.
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Old 01-16-2007, 06:04 AM
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Hi Steelboneguy
The only slow sinker for tarpon I know of is made by Scientific Anglers.
I have used it with success on a number of occaisions.
I also have a fast sinking tip line for warm water from Teeny. That goes down very fast. But using it is "dredging".

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Old 01-16-2007, 06:52 AM
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Jr Spey,

How did you tie it off at the bottom of the bimini.
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