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Old 03-20-2006, 05:30 PM
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Source for flatwing saddles?

Howdy gents--

Where is everyone getting those great flatwing saddles of the sort that Kenny Abrames used to dye/sell? Cheaper the better, lads!

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old 03-21-2006, 06:48 PM
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no idea, doods? I looked atthe old posts and SWE doesn't have em anymore...anyone want to sell me their RLS hackles???
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Old 03-21-2006, 06:56 PM
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there were some ideas from my post about a month ago...

http://www.flyfishingforum.com/flyta...light=flatwing
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Give smitty a call (Kingston MA) 781-582-1015 - he's got what you need.

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Old 03-21-2006, 11:06 PM
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will do. What colors to get if price is not object?
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Old 03-21-2006, 11:23 PM
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I have a whole bunch but my 'core' colors are White (never have enough), yellow. Olive and Chartreuse. Next I would add Black, Rootbeer, Aquamarine or silver doctor blue and fire orange. After that whatever catches your eye.

For sourcing, keep and 'eagle eye' out whenever you visit a fly shop or show. Especially check out the bargain bins. Some of the lower grade saddles from Metz and Hareline dubbin are great for smaller flatwings up to 8 inches or so. Some of the stuff that doesn't make the grade for spring creek dry flies is great for flatwings.
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Old 03-22-2006, 10:18 AM
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Hey thanks Adrian, Juro and others. I should add that Bear's Den has saddles in at $35 per, but that is a bit too rich for my student-loan-livin' blood.

I have seen some places carrying the Whiting "Eurohackle" and it looks quite good at $25 per. Any thoughts on that?

How about best flatwing hooks? Owner AKI?

Best books for flatwings???

Thanks for everythign guys...I need to jam on some flies and then go and FISH them.

big hugs from DC

and juro, I'm going to try to come up to the cape this summer for that clave...do you have any more details?
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Old 03-22-2006, 12:15 PM
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I think Whiting Eurohackle is the product Kenney Abrames used as the basis for his line of flatwing saddles. $25 sounds like a good deal. You might be better off buying a bunch of white capes and dyeing them yourself. Not sure how the Student Dorm would take to that though
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:02 PM
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Well...luckily, my "student dorm" is a small basement apartment that includes a wife and a chihuahua. Since I used to make bamboo rods in my little apartment in Brooklyn, I think dying some chicken feathers in the sink won't be a great trouble to the other occupants.

Not ready to get into dying right now, but when I do...which dye? Any resources you can recommend?

Thanks Adrian!
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:34 PM
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Only reason I didnt suggest Scott and Scott was they sold so much at the shows and I saw they had been depleted recently, but then again he is on top of his ordering so should be in by now.

In any case the spring clave is the weekend before memorial day, chatham, looking to be a big group this year but the area can handle it from Ptown to the bayside to the sound etc...

Throw a lavendar hackle in there too - spring herring have that streak along the shoulders.
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Old 03-25-2006, 01:11 AM
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Talking how could you!

Wow. Collecting materials to tie flatwing streamers in both expensive and difficult. I have jungle cock (5 necks for $55) from England, real abrames necks from Mass, 18-22 inch hackle from rhode island, super long white hackle from NH, hooks from NH, exotic plumage from same.

Problem is I need some good bucktail now. I assume SWE is the source for the super long, pastell-y stuff. Any other suggestions?

Can anyone post from flatwings that they are proud of?
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Old 03-25-2006, 06:28 AM
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The Euro saddles were marketed as Flatwing saddles. Also, call on the bucktails most of the stores have a small supply of good bucktails. Check out the Urban Angler in NYC he might have what your looking for. Down n'Trout in NJ is another source of materials. Talk to Francine she'll help you out. That's about all the fly shops I know of in the NYC area. I know there are some shops on LI but have had on experience with them. Hope this helps you out. FishHawk
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Old 03-25-2006, 08:21 AM
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SWE "Special Select" grade are the finest bucktails you can buy anywhere. Give them a call to see what colors are available. Bears Den does a range of different shades that I've not seen elsewhere. Difficult to buy when you cant look and feel but those would be good places to start.
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Old 03-25-2006, 10:49 AM
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Thanks gents. I will look into these sources...and I'll post some flies today. I have a bunch of interesting plumage that I am trying to use in these flies also.

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