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Old 01-27-2006, 10:01 AM
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LLBean beach two-hander

I see LLBean is on the bandwagon. Just goes to show how far two-handed fly rods have come. It looks like a nice package they have, BTW. And notice the other end of the spectrum--very light two-handers for trout are now widely available.

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I think it's safe to say we fueled the fire on the beach!

What are the specs on this rod?
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Yeah, I just saw their lineup in the new catalog. They're offering a few two handed rods on their website, though the site seems to be missing the two handed lightweight rods that Tom mentioned.
4-Piece 12'6", 7/8 wt. $175.00
4-Piece 13', 8/9 wt. $185.00
4-Piece 14', 9/10 wt. $195.00
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Maybe Juro can weigh in, but why the increasing length with line weight? Seems like an industry standard? Traceable back to Spey casting rather than beach?
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Most likely has to do with merchandising - sales of longer / heavier far outshadow shorter heavier or longer lighter, and yes I think you are right this is influenced by Spey casting which is the bulk of the application for two-handed rods.

That being said, I think we're over the general acceptance 'hump' for two-handed rods in the coastal flyfishing marketplace and after my experiences while bringing the 11ft 11/12wt (and 9/10wt) to the market I hope the surf angler can enjoy more choices in the seasons to come. It's just plain silly to think that a single hander is the only choice out there!
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That's what I like about the Atlantis. You get the extra casting distance and fish-fighting leverage without a lot of additional length in the rod.

Yes Juro, I'd say you started something.
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Well I certainly participated but there were several of us keeping the lonely vigil back in the day... Jay Horton has done a lot since the day I coerced him into throwing the "chicken fly" on the Sage 12'fter at the Nauset Clave. There were others up and done the coast as well.

I think when spring migration begins in 2006 even more people will realize the 9x9'er is not the only way to deal with surf, wind, distance and big fish. In fact it's not the best way either!
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I checked the Spey Forum and people who own the LLBean two hander say they are nice rods. Oh well , another way to spend some money. It never ends. Perhaps. the 12'6" rod could handle a 8/9 spey line rather nicely.
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It's in their "Orion" series--11'-6" 10/11 wt. The website doesn't show much, but here's the link:

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Yeah, I just saw their lineup in the new catalog. They're offering a few two handed rods on their website, though the site seems to be missing the two handed lightweight rods that Tom mentioned.
4-Piece 12'6", 7/8 wt. $175.00
4-Piece 13', 8/9 wt. $185.00
4-Piece 14', 9/10 wt. $195.00

Look under their "Orion" series rods for the beach two-hander.

As for lightweight rods, I was thinking in terms of the CND Tracker series, Bob Meiser's "Trouters," the Loomis Metolious 5/6... and I've heard of maverick custom rod builders putting together 4 and even 3 wt double-handers.

I have become such a geek.... and I only own one fairly light two hander! Too bad my casting abilities have yet to catch up the stinking pile of knowledge in my brain!

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As for lightweight rods, I was thinking in terms of the CND Tracker series, Bob Meiser's "Trouters," the Loomis Metolious 5/6... and I've heard of maverick custom rod builders putting together 4 and even 3 wt double-handers.
I could swear there was a couple in the LL Bean catalog too, but I've been wrong before. If I wasn't so lazy I could just walk upstairs and check, but it's late and I'm tired (and don't forget lazy).
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Hey Juro, that was at Race Point. December 5 or 6, 1999, if memory serves? There was not big wind that day, but it was right in our faces. As I remember it, Juro was the only one in the group who could cover enough water to actually catch fish.

I had Lefty up to Hingham for a SW casting clinic that previous Summer, and he talked a lot about two-handers for the surf, which is what got me so interested in the thing.

You were the first one I had ever seen on the beach, although I had previously seen an oldtimer spey fishing the mouth of the North river with a BAMBOO spey rod. He was catching little schoolies and having a ball.
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although I had previously seen an oldtimer spey fishing the mouth of the North river with a BAMBOO spey rod. He was catching little schoolies and having a ball.
Definitely outclassed there... the only bamboo spey rods i've seen were in glass cases. And the curators wouldn't let my ham-fists touch them
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