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Old 08-31-2005, 08:53 AM
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The question is, How much of an impact will the soaring price of gas have on your fishing? With all the refinery dammage in the Gulf states the price of gas went from $2.61 yesterday morning to $ 2.77 last night and is expected to top $3 a gallon today in Rhoddy. Where it will stop is anybodys guess. What I want to know is why does gas thats in the tanks at the station, and allready billed, rise at the first hint of any bad news? My little Whaler omly holds 18 gal but a .50 rise adds $9 every time I fill up, plus towing the boat drinks gas. I`m on vac. next week and planed on chaseing hardtails all week but I may have to readjust my plans and shorten up some of the Honey-do list instead. Visits to exotic places like CCB and the Sluiceway may have to be scrapped.
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Old 08-31-2005, 09:08 AM
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For me it means less trips out to the cape and south county and just chasing bluefish in the upper bay. Luckily a good beach is only a 5 minute walk from the house.

Planning on getting a boat this spring and that means I gotta find a full time fishing partner to share the gas costs.

It also means I am considering a small car to use to commute to far off fishing places that gets over 40mpg. Not as cool looking but will help the old wallet.

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Old 08-31-2005, 09:59 AM
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Gas prices will not change my fishing habits. If necessary, Anne and I will simply eat out less and do without a few other luxuries (now that I think about it, we already are doing this). But we love to travel too much to have it put a pinch on where we go, even in the boat.
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Old 08-31-2005, 10:27 AM
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Angry Can we do anyting about it?

T HAS BEEN CALCULATED THAT IF EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES DID NOT PURCHASE A DROP OF GASOLINE FOR ONE DAY AND ALL AT THE SAME TIME, THE OIL COMPANIES WOULD CHOKE ON THEIR STOCKPILES.
AT THE SAME TIME IT WOULD HIT THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY WITH A NET LOSS OF OVER 4.6 BILLION DOLLARS WHICH AFFECTS THE BOTTOM LINES OF THE OIL COMPANIES.
THEREFORE SEPTEMBER 1ST HAS BEEN FORMALLY DECLARED "STICK IT UP THEIR @$$ " DAY AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION SHOULD NOT BUY A SINGLE DROP OF GASOLINE THAT DAY.
THE ONLY WAY THIS CAN BE DONE IS IF YOU FORWARD THIS E-MAIL TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN AND AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT.
WAITING ON THIS ADMIINSTRATION TO STEP IN AND CONTROL THE PRICES IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REDUCTION AND CONTROL IN PRICES THAT THE ARAB NATIONS PROMISED WEEKS AGO?
REMEMBER ONE THING, NOT ONLY IS THE PRICE OF GASOLINE GOING UP BUT AT THE SAME TIME AIRLINES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES, TRUCKING COMPANIES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES WHICH EFFECTS PRICES ON EVERYTHING THAT IS SHIPPED. THINGS LIKE FOOD, CLOTHING, BUILDING MATERIALS, MEDICAL SUPPLIES ETC. WHO PAYS IN THE END? WE DO!
WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IF THEY DON'T GET THE MESSAGE AFTER ONE DAY, WE WILL DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN
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Old 08-31-2005, 11:08 AM
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First, please take off your caps lock key. It gives the impression that you're yelling.

Second, the idea of boycotting the gas companies for a day is highly flawed. If nobody gets gas tomorrow, that means that there will be higher than normal gas purchasing today and in the days after. This will keep the gas companies afloat; in fact, they'll be fine. It's a law of economics and statistical averages, plain and simple.

Sure, higher gas prices stink right now. But pushing e-mails for ineffective boycotts simply won't make a dent.
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:38 PM
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Well the $3.00 gallon is here in Natick , Ma. Exxon on rt 30 is charging $3.33 for regular gas. On Rt 9 the cheapest gas is $2.69.This is quite a price spread. Wonder why such a large spread? I think we are kidding ourselves that this will not effect us. I know what my next car will be a Hydrid. FishHawk
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Old 08-31-2005, 01:24 PM
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I think we are kidding ourselves that this will not effect us.
Well, like I said....it already is affecting me and my wife. But I will try my hardest not to let it affect my fishing.

Although I just heard a report from some so-called experts that the price per gallon of $4 is not too distant in the future. Now that's a price that could put a serious damper on travel and fishing.
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Old 08-31-2005, 01:32 PM
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Well I'm definitely wondering how smart I was trading in my fuel-frugal Corrolla for my hungry Tundra (V6 instead of V8, but still with mileage about half as good as the coup) late 2003. But now that I have it, I don't think I could comfortably go back...I kept banging my head getting into the little car....so more hot dogs and Hot Pockets at home, ?down grade my cable service, etc. etc....
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Old 08-31-2005, 01:46 PM
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Here is a relevant piece. Let's all keep our collective fingers crossed on this, and remember that while gas prices are increasing there are far bigger problems stemming from Katrina. At least most of us still have a roof over our heads.

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NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Consumers can expect retail gas prices to rise to $4 a gallon soon but whether they stay there depends on the long-term damage to oil facilities from Hurricane Katrina, oil and gas analysts said Wednesday.

"There's no question gas will hit $4 a gallon," Ben Brockwell, director of pricing at the Oil Price Information Service, said. "The question is how high will it go and how long will it last?"

OPIS tracks wholesale and retail oil prices and provides pricing information for AAA's daily reports on fuel prices.

Brockwell said with gasoline prices now exceeding $3 a gallon before even reaching the wholesale level, it "doesn't take a genius" to expect retail prices to hit $4 a gallon soon.

"Consumers haven't seen the worst of it yet," Brockwell said.

He expects consumers in the Southeast and Northeast to be pinched first, following the impact of Hurricane Katrina on the Gulf Coast region.

Katrina forced operators to close more than a tenth of the country's refining capacity and a quarter of its oil production, which sent gasoline prices surging.

"With this kind of hiccup in refinery capacity, in stretched markets like California, you could see over $4 a gallon in gas," Evan Smith, an analyst at U.S. Global Investors, told CNN/Money.

While it's still too early to fully assess the damage caused by Katrina, efforts to build up inventories of crude oil, natural gas and other products like gasoline will be set back by the storm, according to Nariman Behravesh, chief economist at Global Insight.

In a research note, Behravesh laid out a worst-case scenario that puts average prices for regular unleaded gasoline at about $3.50 a gallon for the next four to six months.

"The impact on consumer spending in such a scenario would be very dramatic, cutting the growth rate by as much as 3 percent and pushing real GDP growth in the fourth quarter closer to zero," he wrote.

In a best-case scenario, he forecast retail pump prices to peak at $3 a gallon for a couple of months, but then fall back to around $2.50 by year-end.

The nationwide average price for a gallon of regular unleaded hit a fresh high of $2.619 Wednesday, according to AAA, the largest U.S. motorist organization, formerly known as the American Automobile Association.

Average gasoline prices have gained 40 percent in the last year.

Prices for crude oil are also up sharply and are currently hovering near record highs just under $70 a barrel.
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Old 08-31-2005, 02:41 PM
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Has anyone else herd that the average net profit for each oil company over the last year is about 7 billion dollars a month average? If true I wonder if they have the balls to take a cut in profit to help this country out in what looks like some hard economic years ahead. After what has happened down south and the war we as a country may need to call some type of national emergency. If gas prices go to 4 dollars a gallon in a country that it's citizens depend not only on cars for transportation but for such long distance transportation costs to get vital supplies to folks we may end up with a really bad crash across the board.

I guess I should feel good that I put 300 pounds of potatos and 60 pounds of beets in the root cellar yesterday.
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Multi National Oil Companys are not very worried about the effects of the price of Gasoline on the likes of us. Exxon is still appealing the decision to make them pay for the lost fishing oppurtunities in Prince William Sound from the Big Spill! even though there share of the monthly profits would pay the cost and have that much leftover.
Yesterday I saw people filling "Jerry Jugs at several gas stations here in the Northwest, thats one way to get a short supply started and get the prices jacked up even faster.
I talked with a young couple here today that are heading down to New Orleans in a couple of weeks to help out with the recovery efforts. I suspect there will be lots of oppurtunities to help out other than helping the Multi National oil co's get even richer.
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Old 08-31-2005, 06:14 PM
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With a 70 gallon tank on the boat it's rough, I've been filling it up after every trip just to save since it seems to bump up 10 cents between trips. I've learned to conserve fuel while making longer runs, using the tabs and tweaking the trim but depending on sea conditions sometimes it's the running and gunning or puting around that can use more gas than a long run. When I go out with someone they normally chip in for gas which helps. Unfortunately work has kept my fishing to a minimum this year and I have not been getting out for morning trips before work anyway.
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Old 08-31-2005, 09:22 PM
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Price went up $.10/gallon while I was pumping tonight. I am planning on switching vehicles with my wife which will offset a little of the increase as I have a much longer drive and her car gets much better mileage. With only about 8 weeks left in the season I can't see it changing my boating too much. Maybe less willing to go search for fish and more staying put and waiting it out. Will certainly enlist the help of friends to try and get as much intel before launching as possible and hopefully a little help from my passengers with the gas bill.

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Watching the news after the baseball game this evening I see that Gasoline has already hit $6.00 in Atlanta and there are lines ready to pay the price! I doubt it will be predictable but it will certainly be volatile maybe even explosive.
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Heard of a guy that added two 500 gal. heating oil tanks to his property. Filled them both six months ago when prices were lower. He drives a diesel and now fills up in the back yard!!!!!!! The car gets 50 mpg! Yup....runs on heating oil.

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