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Old 09-06-2005, 11:46 AM
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Baitfish patterns for bonefish

Hi Everyone
I am getting ready for a trip to Los Roques in Venezuela next month. I need a few fly pattern ideas.
The situation is like this.
I have been to LR on a number of occaisions now and have caught bones with every fly I know.
I have used gotchas, clousers, small decievers, gummy minnows, merkins etc. etc.

What I need is the ultimate imitation sardine.

In Los Roques the baitfish (sardines) swim along the beaches in very large dense swarms. The bonefish swim through the school and pick off the odd fish. When a Pelican dives into the baitfish, the bones worry the Pelican into opening his beak.
A cast almost on the Pelican's head often works.
However often the bonefish are very choosy and despite the fact that they are feeding vigourously and aggresively then often turn down the fly.
I need a fly which is so lifelike and identical to a live sardine that the bonefish will not refuse it when it is feeding.

Is there such a pattern or is it just wishfull thinking on my part?

I really appreciate any help.
Thanks.

Pete
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Old 09-06-2005, 07:21 PM
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Bob Povovics surf candies can be tied to very closely resemble any slim profile bait fish. Enrico Puglisi flies could be good too. Niether pattern has much action (stiff short fibers) but the catch fish and look good. Check out Bob Pops book to see some amazing immitations.
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Old 09-06-2005, 07:50 PM
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Again I point you to Bob Veverka's article on the forum...

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Best looking sardine fly I've ever seen!
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Old 09-07-2005, 02:00 AM
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Hi Juro
Thanks for the reply.
The fly in the picture alongside the real sardine is great however Bob Veverka then refers to another fly, the East Cape Sardine, which is a variation of a deceiver.
The fly in the picture looks as though it has a body made from some sort of braided material.

I think that if it were possible to tie something like a gummy minnow that had a good action then that would be the answer.

Hi Eddie
I have used Surf Candies and they do not have the right action. Thanks anyway.

Pete
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:39 AM
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Pete,
Did you try to tie a pattern with some EP-Fibers?
It's great stuff, especially when you use it to form a body,- the main shape - on top you could dress it with some shiny, sparkling stuff, and some peacock strands to form some stripes..
A trick that helps to keep the sparkling stuff in shape is to carefully melt the ends of the sparkling stuff (i use christmastree decoration, but commercially available with the name angel hair) and press it togheter, cut it in shape and you'll have a baitfish imitation that will keep it's shape when wet, and best of all, it will maintain the shapes and contours.

Is there a picture from these baitfish available somewhere?(edit...i saw a great example in the BV-article...)
It's a shame that i can only give it a try (to tie that is..) untill the end of next week..i'll try it anyway, will post a pic..

Greetz, Limpe

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Old 10-22-2005, 03:23 AM
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Hi Pete,

I was in LR last year and had lots of success with an epoxyheaded minnow with olive and white polar fibre for wings. My friend, Peter, who tagged along has visited the islands 4 times now and swears to this fly. Check the pic on http://www.scandicangler.com/?t=5||&...42461f547d0ac3 where you'll be able to find more pics from LR (it's in Danish though).

When we were there in february the wind was up and the water was pretty murky. I had at least the same amount of succes with brown Clousers size 4-8 as any of the other guys using the polar minnow. Heck, even bonefish are just fish with a brain the size of a pea and any super imitation will still have a hook jutting out from its belly, so ...

Tight lines

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Old 10-24-2005, 01:23 PM
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Hi Jens
I have just got back from LR. This was my 7th trip since the beginning of last year.
The fishing is not as easy as you make it out to be. (Or maybe it is, I don't know your expectations)
However I used a fly created by another Danish man that turned out to be unbelieveable and was just what I was looking for.
I will not disclose what it looks like unless he allows me to but the very selective fish just off the beach at Crasqui hardly refused it. If I had not lost all the flies from break offs through very hard takes, I could have caught many hundreds of fish.
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maybe too late, but...

You're probably already back from your trip, but I thought I would throw this idea out there for anyone else interested. It isn't really a proper fly at all, being made of rubber, but it is a damn realistic imitation of a baitfish! This one is made by Chocklett, and comes in several colors:

http://jfisheronline.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_32110
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Old 10-29-2005, 11:04 AM
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I am back.
The gummy minnow is a very effective fly in Los Roques.

Pete

I am off to Cuba in 2 weeks. Anyone any ideas what really works there.

Pete
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