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Old 04-23-2005, 01:20 PM
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My 0.02$

When I moved from BC to Quebec, I was amazed at the bag limits as well as the C&BBQ culture (trout and Salmon).

Being from a mostly C&R area, I wondered why, if anglers C&R "simple trout", why a C&BBQ fishery could exist for Salmo salar.

Since 2002, the Ste-Marguerite is 100% release for adult salmon. We lost quite a few clients and members, but IMHO, that is the price to pay for a longterm fishery.
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Old 04-23-2005, 02:08 PM
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How did the Ste-marguerite go about a 100% release policy for MSW salmon? Which level of government, Zec's etc were involved? Was it a long battle to do so? Or are you talking about your own personal business? In the three years since this was implemented, what pros/cons, if any have you seen on this watershed? Have spawning escapements increased? Dramatically? Angler hours and rod/catch,etc ratio's go up? Same?
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Old 04-23-2005, 02:48 PM
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(I'm going from memory here, so if others in Zec's see this, chime in).

Originally, there were kill quotas for the river (as elswhere in Quebec) per Zone.

After a zone was "closed" or bagged, they went to C&R on Adults (63cm) and griles would stay open.

In 2002, around prime time, there were very few salmon arrived. There were tons of theories, ... maybe the deluge of '96 was the problem. Anyway, to make sur this population (that years spawning group) didn't get wiped out, the river "closed" rigth away, instead of waiting for quotas to be filled.

Now, who closes a river ?? I believe it is Fish and Wildlife (provincial) that is FAPAQ. but I could be mistaken. Anyhow, it wasn't a unilateral decision by the ZEC. Gouvt was involved.

Ever since, the C&R on adult salmon has been maintained.

On the fish side of things, I'll have to get back to you on that. On the Clients side, we lost quite a few. Even in 2002, they had a large number of cancellations.

Did this make us lose lots of clients in the long term, ... Can't say. Ya see, in 2004, the Bardsville site didn't open (as for this year as well). We lost many clients who'd usually come for multiple day visits.

Did this measure make a difference, ... we'll have to see in the long run. IMHO, if the Govt is willing to close down 20% of our forest industry just because they can't get their number straight, I feel that the closure of the kill fishery on adults is easily justified. (my opinion).
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Old 04-23-2005, 11:32 PM
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In answer to your question regarding ruling out killing of large females(Salmon of course) No there hasn't been any proposal ,as such.However I do believe that tags for MSW's will be reduced in the not too distant future.

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