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Old 03-18-2005, 05:37 PM
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Just another sandeel (for Europe)

Some while ago Pete (Penguin) put me on the right track to weedless keel flies. Also a Dutch guy (Rene Sehr) showed me his flies and how he ties them with Unique Hair and DNA (both nice materials). Now I tied some and just wanted to show them.
Rgds Adrian V.
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Old 03-18-2005, 06:32 PM
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You nailed it. Good work they will be real killers . FishHawk
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Old 03-18-2005, 06:59 PM
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Thumbs up Ah grasshopper...

You have snatched the pebbles from my hand!

I've been known to eat fresh dead bait that didn't look nearly as fine as those tyez!
Nicely done... AdrianV
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Old 03-18-2005, 10:17 PM
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Most excellant! Very fishy looking and weedless to boot.
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Old 03-19-2005, 03:10 AM
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Yes please !

I`m in Europe !
Could really really do with those flies for the Moy Estuary !
Adrian, when you tie some more, remember your pals in Ireland !
Beauties !
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Old 03-19-2005, 03:38 PM
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Lovely flies Adrian !
They are better than my attempts, but i'm getting there.
What hook do you use? and, as was once asked of me, how long are they?

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Old 03-19-2005, 04:30 PM
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Dave, I used a popper hook (Tiemco 511S) slightly bent with pliers and some Mustad hooks I still had, but without a label. I am still searching for the best hook, and I suppose the Mustad 34011 should do the job. I do not know if it can be bent without any problem, but I am sure others on this forum will be able to tell us (still need help Pete) I do not want to use a too heavy hook, such as the Tiemco 911S. We normally use 10-12 lbs tippets with #6 and #7 rods, the 911's might be too difficult to set.
On the size: these are tied on 4 hooks (bottom 3) and on size 2. The length of the flies is about 2-3 inches.

Cascade, if you want some send me a private message with your address. I will post you a couple as samples to tie from.

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Cheers Adrian,

I haven't found a long shank hook yet, tried 911's but either i'm to heavy handed or they don't like being bent !

So far the ones i've tied have been on Daiichi 2546's , i know there short shank but they take a bend well and are soooooo sharp!, and i don't think i've compromised the gape badly enough to stop hook ups.
Tried a few on Kamasan worm hooks ( for UK waters) and they will do for the size of fish we catch, but i don't think these would be any good for anything like Stripers and bluefish .

I really like the idea of bend backs for fishing round weed and rocks ( as all my marks consist of just that !) so i'm keen to get them right.

Keep us clued up on any more developments........i'm off surfing to find some 511's


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Old 03-20-2005, 05:04 AM
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Thank you !

What a very kind gesture Adrian.
I shall fish them with pride, to the envy of my buddies !
Many thanks !

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Dave,

I have a bunch of partridge hooks which you might find fits the bill. Send me your address and I will post some to you.
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I have found the Mustad 34011 to be a very good hook for this purpose. They are very malleable and the long shank keeps the angle to a minimum. I think you may find that you will lose a few hooksets with an extreme angle on a short/standard shank hook. Remember the material alone should keep the fly riding point up so you really don't need to put much of a bend in the hook. In the picture the middle and bottoms flies reflect the angle I would use. It looks like the others might be a bit aggressive in my experience. One other thing I like to do is use Bill's Body braid to wrap the shank.

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