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Old 02-10-2005, 01:16 AM
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First try- Squid

I saw this in the latest On The Water and just had to try it, it seemed so right. It`s a bit complicated and takes some time, actually it`s not hard at all just time consuming, but it`s a long time till the squid come back. I don`t think it came out too bad for a first attempt, gotta get bigger eyes!
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Old 02-10-2005, 04:22 AM
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Good job Slinger. I'll bet that you used Pink DNA in the fly.
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:03 AM
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Steve,

Nice proportions and colors. It has, as Fishhawk said, "DNA" written all over it.

My high school guidance teacher told me I had DNA. D id N ot A mount to nothing.
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:29 AM
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Nice job Steve!

Bet you can't wait to try it out in the South County
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Old 02-10-2005, 07:51 PM
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Looks great, is that Steve Farrar's squid? I have tying instructions for his squid from aswf.og that I've been meaning to try.

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Old 02-10-2005, 11:23 PM
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No DNA in this one. This is step by step from Dave Souza`s article in OTW. Just some hackles and craft fur tied on a 40lb mono base. The eyes need work, I think there must be a better way of mounting them, maybe I`ll steal a page from Penguin`s book and try the mono loop method. Once I get the eyes down I think this will become a staple in my box.
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Old 02-11-2005, 06:12 AM
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1st try - squid

Shirt,
Looks nice, you'll have to give it a toss at the rock pile.
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Old 02-11-2005, 06:30 AM
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A went back to look at the recipe for the Farrar squid I mentioned and noticed that he has the "tentacles" encased in e-z body and cantilevered off the back of the hook, similar to Rich Murphy's squid. The E-Z body gives you a nice big solid spot to mount the eyes.

You can see what I mean here http://www.aswf.org/saltwater_flies_for_web/steve_farrar/squid_fly/squid_fly.html.

(That's not a link to a commercial operation, so it should be OK according to board guidelines.)

Anyway, like I said earlier, your fly looks great. Just thought I'd mention this solution to mounting the eyes.
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Old 02-11-2005, 01:22 PM
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Very Nice!
how long is this tie?
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Old 03-30-2005, 10:25 PM
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Nice tie Slinger,

I did up seven of those in camel for the big fly swap. I too saw the pattern in the same issue and really like the looks of it. I'm not sure how long it took you to tie that one, But it took along time compared to what I usually tie.

Jimbo - I expect I spent 3-4 hours on each fly with all the craft fur I put on them with a two vice set-up. I think they were about a foot long. Nice looking fly though, I expect the fish will like it.

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Old 03-31-2005, 12:07 AM
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I did up a dozen of these in three differant colors, took me about an hour for each fly. They ended up at 12" each. One pack of craft fur plus was good for four flies, so that gives an idea how much fur you have to spin. For smaller flies I much prefer Steve Farrar`s DNA Squids, I can bang them out in about 15 min.
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Old 04-02-2005, 11:48 AM
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Steve,

I'm surprized to hear it was only an hour or so for you, I must be really slow or using a different technique. Of course I know you also tie alot more flies than me. Perhaps I spent too much time putting glue on between clumps of craft fur and waiting for it to dry. I found if you didn't glue some of the tied off clumps of craft fur to the line, It could slide the tied clump down the 40lb line and have it pile up at the end. Still a nice tie, but it sounds like I spent 3 times longer to tie them up.

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Old 04-02-2005, 11:52 AM
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For an old squid pattern I twisted up years ago I just palmered marabou popsicle style on a nylon tube extended from the shank of the hook with the legs and eyes tied in at the far end.

The whole tie took about 15 minutes and man did it ever move in the water. Marabou lays flat when casting as well and it would really fly out there on the two-hander.

This is not to say I am not amazed by this pattern, I am just suggesting that marabou might dramatically shorten the investment and produce an equally active fly that casts easier too.

I will post a recipe / step by step when I have the spare cycles at least on the west coast popsicle palmering technique. It's quick and permits easy multi-layering of colors.
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Old 04-02-2005, 08:45 PM
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One of the things that speeds it up for me is doing eyerything in steps. I don`t do just 2 eyes, I did 40 all at once. I didn`t do 1 rear hook,I did 24, so on and so on, just like production tying. I learned this from Harry Darbee many years ago, he never tied one complete fly at a time. I`ve seen him spend a whole day just tying tails on Hendricksons, next day he would do the bodies, etc, etc. After 4 days he`d have 1000 flies finished.
The waiting for glue to dry adds lots of time too. Spin the fur while the glue`s still wet, it won`t hurt and it even helps lock in the fibers, just don`t overdue it on the glue!
I seriously tried to cut back on the number of flies I tied this winter, I just don`t need 40 doz. Clousers! What really helped slow me down was to do 1 compleat fly at a time.
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Really it didn`t help, I`ve still got 1000 flies with me at any time!
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Good point Steve.

BTW there is no glue in the marabou palmering technique, which is another reason it's so fast.
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