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Old 01-17-2005, 07:37 PM
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Yea, um this is like my 5th fly tied? Im happy with the result, I just need to get some eyes on her. The Chartreuse and White are zonker strips, with some trimmed bucktail tied in as gills for the wounded minnow look.

Comments/ Criticism please.


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Old 01-17-2005, 10:44 PM
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Looks like a LM bass catcher! Nice streamer!
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Old 01-18-2005, 02:17 PM
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Looks like a LM bass catcher! Nice streamer!
Hope it is, thanks man, I cant wait to go try this, only 5-6 months
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Old 01-18-2005, 06:23 PM
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Hope it is, thanks man, I cant wait to go try this, only 5-6 months
Hmm . . . 5 or 6 months puts us into May or June. Definitely good bass fishing by then, but if the weather (and your fishing regulations) allow you to fish in March and April you can also catch plenty of bass during those months (BIG ones too ).

Nice looking fly! That should catch bass, pike and pickerel.

You asked for comments/criticism so here's my $0.02:

- I'd stick some eyes onto the thread behind the conehead and apply a thin coat or two of epoxy just over the eyes and thread.

- A weedguard of some type might be a good idea.

- Are the rabbit strips fastened along the length of the shank, or at least tied down at the tail end of the shank? If not, I would do that. (The tail ends of the rabbits strips can be glued together to form a single tail or left separate to make twin tails.)

- Many flies that use rabbit strip tails have a small loop of heavy mono extending off the tail of the fly (under the rabbit strip) to help keep the tail from wrapping around the hook during casting. I'm not sure how much this helps since my bunny flies still get tangled up even when I include the mono loop .

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Old 01-18-2005, 06:44 PM
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Hmm . . . 5 or 6 months puts us into May or June. Definitely good bass fishing by then, but if the weather (and your fishing regulations) allow you to fish in March and April you can also catch plenty of bass during those months (BIG ones too ).

Nice looking fly! That should catch bass, pike and pickerel.

You asked for comments/criticism so here's my $0.02:

- I'd stick some eyes onto the thread behind the conehead and apply a thin coat or two of epoxy just over the eyes and thread.

- A weedguard of some type might be a good idea.

- Are the rabbit strips fastened along the length of the shank, or at least tied down at the tail end of the shank? If not, I would do that. (The tail ends of the rabbits strips can be glued together to form a single tail or left separate to make twin tails.)

- Many flies that use rabbit strip tails have a small loop of heavy mono extending off the tail of the fly (under the rabbit strip) to help keep the tail from wrapping around the hook during casting. I'm not sure how much this helps since my bunny flies still get tangled up even when I include the mono loop .

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Thanks m8, the eyes, well I was goign to put them right where you suggested, but im not good with expoxy and knowing me, ill ruin this precious baby( to me).


I tied the strips just after the gills, thats all, i wanted more action, and well ebing the beginner I am, I didnt know what to do to be honest.

Funny you mention about glueing it togther , initially i did have it glued. But I took apart.

Im not to sure what you mean about the mono on the tail, and about the weedguard, i havent fished with a weed guard in ages, both Fly fishign and spinning combo. Thanks again for the input, what are some streamerss that bass will annihilate?

Thanks

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Old 01-18-2005, 08:57 PM
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Thanks m8, the eyes, well I was goign to put them right where you suggested, but im not good with expoxy and knowing me, ill ruin this precious baby( to me). . . . ~Po0gS~
The epoxy would just help keep the eyes on a little longer. It's not too hard to use once you get the hang of it, especially if you just use a very small amount of 5 minute epoxy, but I understand about not wanting to mess up the fly -- I've gooped up a few in my time

As for the rabbit strips, you can try leaving them as they are and see how the fly works. You can always lash them down later if they keep wrapping around the hook shank when you cast.

I didn't go into detail about the weedguard or mono loop because I didn't want to confuse you. They are not difficult to do but drawings or photos explain better than words. I'll see if I can find some links to tying instructions that show how to do it.

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Old 01-18-2005, 10:07 PM
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OK, Here are URLs for instructions for weed guards:

EDIT: URLs removed. Do a search on AltaVista for Healy Weed Guard and you will find the articles I am referring to.

Hope this helps!

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Old 01-19-2005, 02:35 PM
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Thanks to much m8, noticed your in MA, i have folks up there that are abotu 20 from the Deerfield. If I dropped u a PM, you up for a few questions if youve ever fished there.
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Old 01-19-2005, 06:47 PM
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Thanks to much m8, noticed your in MA, i have folks up there that are abotu 20 from the Deerfield. If I dropped u a PM, you up for a few questions if youve ever fished there.
Sorry, can't help much with info on the Deerfield. There are a few guys on this site that might be more help. Try a site search on Deerfield or post a question on the Trout bulletin board and you will get much better info than I can provide.

Good luck!

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Old 01-20-2005, 02:21 PM
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Thanks anyways, you helped me tremendasly(wow that was spelled wrong)
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Old 01-23-2005, 05:00 PM
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I just wanted to give you a couple tips, Poogs. The thread behind the cone is built up quite a lot. To secure the cone with less thread, make roughly 3-4 turns of lead (the gauge depends on the cone), on the bare shank. Push these "turns" into the cone head, then secure with thread.

If you look at the chartruese bunny strip on the top, you'll notice the bottom of the strip is pointed/curled up. When you tie down a "zonker strip," make sure the skin conforms to the hook shank. In other words, make sure the sides (of the skin on the bottom of the strip) fold over and are tied closer to the side of the shank, rather than curling up.

The last thing is to take weight into consideration. Bunny fur absorbs lots of water, and that combined with a cone-head can make a heavy fly. Other than that, these have all been fine details. I really do like this tie. Keep it up!
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