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Old 01-21-2005, 08:35 AM
wilbert wilbert is offline
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I love maxima line and have never been broken on it because it has so much stretch in it. The time I got broken I was using flurocarbon that my guide gave me to use and it was probably 8-10lbs breaking strain. Can you get the clear maxima in breaking strains over 15lbs?? I can only find clear upto 15lbs but can get the green or brown upto 40lbs although anything above 25 takes some searching. I am going back to russia this year and would like to take lots of maxima (10lbs - 30 lbs) with me rather than expensive flurocarbon that does not perform. I have tried many differnet makes of flurocarbon and although some performed very well i found most of them to be poor at knot strenght and had bad line memory and they were expensive especially rio fluroflex. Maxima may be old but it works and works well.

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Old 01-21-2005, 06:03 PM
M3gahurtz M3gahurtz is offline
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I have been fishing the riffle hitch or the portland creek hitch for 15 years in the waters of newfoundland. You put the hitch on a different side of the fly depending on which side of the river you are fishing. If you are fishing the left side of the river with the flow going to your right you want the hitch coming off the left hand side of the fly coming around the bottom. This will keep the fly pointing up stream and make it swim slower as it is coming toward you. If you put it on the wrong side your fly will be upsidedown or be pointing downstream and be going to fast and the fish will not take. Reverse this if you are on the right side of the river with flow going to your left. If you put the hitch on the bottom your fly will ride on its side, usually this works in a boat when u are fishing directly below you, but normally I would just us a tutle know when fishing like this.

I also use a double hitch, put these parallel to each other with the second on behind the first ( going toward the bend of the hook ) this keeps it from sliding around when you are casting a long line which may produce an undersired or unpredictable swimming action. The double hitch or any hitch does weaken the breaking strength of the leader. But if you use high quality mono or floro this doesn't seem to be a problem. A lot of people in newfoundland use maxima but I do not. I use dai-riki or Rio 10 - 15 lbs.

The fish will usually be hooked in the side of the jaw closest to you. Salmon will follow the fly and then make a swipe at it and turn away from you. This is ideal but sometimes they will just rise slowy and nip it in which case you will need to set the hook as soon as he hits. In this case he will be hooked in the upper or lower jaw in the middle of the snout.
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Old 01-21-2005, 10:23 PM
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I believe that there is maxima clear up to at least 20lb test. I find that maxima does a great job in maintaining its breaking strength as well as holding its knots. I am partial to clear maxima on the Gaspe because the rivers are extremely clear. Whether or not it makes a difference I will never know for sure.

The leaders I use are custom-made by Gary Selig and are made from maxima. He glues all of his knots.

For what it is worth, I have had clients complain about mirage slipping and/or breaking at the knot. One dwears he willnever use it again after having his leader break on a 25lb+ salmon this past August. I also hear that it breaks down very poorly and is therefore not environmentally freindly? Anyone have any info on this?

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Old 01-22-2005, 08:39 AM
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Wilbert,

I often use the Maxima Green and find it to be excellent leader material. I went off the brown Maxima while trout fishing with no success one day and a fellow fisher said "change the leader, the brown stuff spooks the fish". Sure enough, a change to a less conspicuous leader material brought instant success.

I do not like the Maxima Clear because it seems to have a short shelf life. I've had experiences with it where it turns almost brittle after being stored for a few months.

When I want a clear leader material I always opt for Hardy Co-Polymer. I find this hard to beat for salmon fishing. I've used it in breaking strains up to 20lb, but have never looked for anything heavier.

The only exception is when the fish want a small fly high in the water but not skated. In that instance I will use a longish flourocarbon leader that just drags the fly under the surface a little. I don't suppose this is an issue when fishing with a riffle hitch.
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Old 01-22-2005, 03:35 PM
Earle Fletcher Earle Fletcher is offline
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Leaders

I just checked (2) 2005 fly fishing catalogues found that Maxima is available in Chameleon, Clear and Ultra Green from 1# to 40 # test. For the first time they are making fluaorocarbon leader material from 2# to 40# test. I had some breakage problems with the second generation Mirage this past season. The first instance was with a 125# +/- tarpon on 20# Mirage. I noticed when I was tying up my salmon leaders, I was getting a lot of breakage when snugging up the blood and double surgeon knots in the small tippet sections. I didn't loose any salmon because of leader breakage, but I didn't use anything less than 12.5# test. I'm going to try the new Maxima fluorocarbon for this year's salmon fishing and stick with the old standby Mason for the tarpon leaders.
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