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Old 01-13-2005, 11:17 AM
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Meiz,
Just let me know which week and I'll find some fishing on the Spey, give me plenty of warning, the Spey is booking up quickly.
I have spent the afternoon trying to find three days top fishing for a continental gentleman and his wife. His wife doesn't fish but wants a 5 ***** hotel, the husband wants to be able to walk back to the hotel to see his wife.
My options appear to be, a) move the Spey or b) build a new hotel.
He appears to consider the hotel is as important as the fishing, young second wife I guess.
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Old 01-13-2005, 11:51 AM
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Hi Malcolm,

Will do.....And thanks for the offer my friend !!!

...Now I think the "Hardy Girl" would adjust one's priorities in that regards....};^) !!!

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Old 01-13-2005, 04:20 PM
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Send him to the Tay, Malcolm - Kinnaird should fit the bill. Or maybe Inverlochy?
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Old 01-13-2005, 06:26 PM
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Great news!! Rub it in in Nice to hear that SOMEONE is fishing somewher in the World for salmon !
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Old 01-13-2005, 08:24 PM
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Thumbs up Way to go Gordon

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I know the Helmsdale will be busy, Every year the estates allow free fishing on the opening two days.
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Gordon, It is nice to see that someone is holding up the reputation of the Scots.
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Old 01-14-2005, 05:06 AM
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[Hello David,
I am quite happy to add the wanted poem (as a german...)

Says Tweed to Till
"What gars ye rin sae still?"
Says Till to Tweed
"Although ye rin wi´speed,
And I rin slaw,
for ae man that ye droon
I droon twa!"

I have heard it when I fished Tillmouth Park on the Tweed a few years ago.
Luckily enough there was no competition between the Rivers that time, so the conditions and the catches were fine, and everybody from our party escaped unharmed....

Found the poem in Ashley-Coopers " The Great Salmon Rivers of Scotland"

Best regards from Germany (where in general nearly no salmon fishing is in sight)

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QUOTE=Gaspe Salmon]Dear Willie,

I really enjoyed the pic of the bagpipes. I wish we had those sorts of traditions here. I can just imagine the feeling of hearing them march down the first anglers of the season towards the river. Wonder if the salmon get spooked! ha ha...

Will make my pilgimage there one day.

Last little note. My father, who used to work quite a bit in Churnside, told me of a poem that he read in a bar, it was a conversation between two rivers the Tweed and the Til, if I am not mistaken. Do you know this short poem where the rivers are speaking to one another? If so, do you know how it goes, and if you do, could you send me a copy via email or post it. I always got a kick out of hearing it with the brogue my father used.

If you know of it, please tell me.

Kind regards to you and best of luck to all of you who are now fishing!

David[/QUOTE]
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Old 01-14-2005, 05:42 AM
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Thanks for that sluggan, one can't recite that without feeling the blood of Scottish anglers in their veins. Now can someone please translate

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Old 01-14-2005, 06:03 AM
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Says Tweed to Till
"What gars ye rin sae still?"
Says Till to Tweed
"Although ye rin wi´speed,
And I rin slaw,
for ae man that ye droon
I droon twa!"

Says Tweed to Till
What makes you run so slow.

Says Till to Tweed
Although you run with speed and I run slow

For every man you drown I drown two

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Dear Sluggan and Wille Gunn,

I thank you for posting that poem!

I have always gotten a great feeling every time I heard it, probably something to do with a great childhood memory of when my Dad came home from a business trip from Scotland when I was a wee lad. Cannot be sure, but I think it also has something to do with the fact that he was showing me some prawn and shrimp type flies that he had picked up there while reciting. A bit of impregnating of salmon lore at a very young age.

One day I will see exactly how fast they each flow.

Best to you both


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Old 01-14-2005, 11:50 AM
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Hello David,

please do not expect too much stream of both rivers.
You cannot compare them with the highland rivers like the Spey or Dee.
But a few words to the poem.
A friend of mine who lives in Coldstream( and is born there, so he should know)
told me that the Till is more "dangerous" than the Tweed because of his in some parts muddy grounds(sticking wellies?) and the much quicker rising water.
He also said that this reputation is from an age when most of the English and
Scottish people were simply not able to swim....

Anyway, the fishing during the last years was fantastic,.... if not flooded off.

TL,
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Old 01-16-2005, 06:03 AM
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Gordon Armstrong, Graham Ritchie and myself had opening day on the Moriston yesterday. Although we tried hard through the driving rain no fresh fish were taken. Apparently we were on the wrong river, fine 8lb fish was caught and returned on the Oich. The Oich is the next river up on the Ness system, the fish was sea liced so was obviously pushing on.

The question always is "Is it a fresh fish or just a kelt?
The silver in the net raises hopes which are soon dashed.......just another kelt.
Some people just will not give up even when it is getting dark.
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Meis , dont think i will bring a dapping rod ,the reel and the line will come along with some loch ordies sedgehogs, golden olive bumbles et all ,.as I am sure we can find a suitable rod .
surfing through another forum saw mention of "emigrant lake " might be a possible venue ?????
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:13 PM
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Thumbs up first off Moriston

The first fish was taken off the river Moriston on monday. It was estimated to be 10lb and was tide fresh.

Credit must go to Gordon Kerr as he is the first person on record to release an opening fish off the Moriston.

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Hi Andy,

If you'll be coming in Mid-Summer <> July/August you will find the best fishing to be on our Rivers for Summer run Steelhead on the North Umpqua, Rogue, and a few smaller rivers best left un-said...};^)...!!!

The North Umpqua will produce the occasional 20 pound Summer fish, but most from 9 to 12 pounds....With these in good numbers.

The Rogue's fish will be a tad smaller <> 5 to 11 pounds, with most in the 6 to 8 pound range. Fish to the beach numbers on the Rogue can be very good, ofgten exceeding 10 fish days.

Smaller two handers are the ticket, with 11.5' to 13' in 6/7/8 wts working spot on.

All manner of line systems and various techniques will work, most determined by water temp, flows, and clarity.

I perfer a dry line/greaseline swing with sparce patterns and heavy iron....Or fine wire and thin water swinging: Silver Hiltons, Skunks, and especially long shank Soft Hackles.

.....No doubt the sink tip or weighted fly boys will get more fish though !!!!

As far as our lakes go in Mid-Summer ?

The high country lakes would be the best bet.....But better yet, and far more exciting would be the waters of the Klamath Basin just over the hill from the Rogue Valley.

This is High Desert country ~ Spring Creek fed lakes and streams with extremely fertile waters.

Actually quite tricky to fish correctly, but we can put you in the right boat no worries.

I'll mail you a few pics of this country if you wish.

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