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Old 01-07-2005, 03:21 AM
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Burrowing sandeel

Here`s somthing I saw somwhere and thought I`d give a try. It`s called a Burrowing Sandeel. A loop of mono is tied in around the eyes like outriggers and the fly stands right up on it`s nose, like a sandeel digging in.
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Old 01-07-2005, 03:25 AM
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Now if I could see the fish before they see me and hightail it I`d be in fine shape!
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Saw a similar fly last year on the shuttle to SB last year. The angler said he had great success with this type of fly. FishHawk
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Old 01-07-2005, 08:37 AM
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The first place I saw that idea was in a Dave Skok pattern. He used the mono "outriggers" with a peacok herl fly I believe. The only place I have seen the pattern is in "Sight Fishing for Striped Bass." I think he also usually has one lying around his table at the shows. I may have to give it a try this summer as I was always curious how it would fish.

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Old 01-07-2005, 09:13 AM
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I have been playing with this concept as well, however I use flotation and it doubles as a worm in different colors. Durability has been an issue and I am still searching for a new material before I disclose the project's results
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Old 01-07-2005, 09:18 AM
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Yup, it`s in Caolo`s book, says it was originated by Skok. I, of course, used different materials. I saw a referance to it in the current issue of FFSW mag. Sean, thanks for the subscription!
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Old 01-07-2005, 09:57 AM
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No problem on the subscription Steve. Of course I haven't gotten my copy yet this month! Let me know on the boat show this weekend.

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Steve...Good stuff!...

I've tried (with some good success) the mono arms but have a problem storing/carrying the little monsters.
Juros' idea of "prop-up" floatation sounds like an interesting alternative...
Craft foam? Cork? Custom PFD? A small anti-matter-particle-generator?
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The photo shows a scanned, standing clouser w/mono outriggers...
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Old 01-07-2005, 12:35 PM
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Steve,

Try tying a hackle feather or marabou plume at a 90 degree angle from the hook shank less the mono stand. This up-right position of the feather works well with Clouser type flies. Doing this keeps the eyes of Clouser flies dragging along the sandy bottom. It may produce small puffs of sand which stimulates fish behavior.
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I use the mono outriggers for a leech pattern, the mono is between 1/2 inch long for size 6&8 hooks and 1 inch long for larger sizes. It is a very effective pattern when fished slowly on the bottom. The mono is tied so as to have it facing fwd at the front of the hook. I think the pattern is called the Bristle Leech (?).
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Nice Job Steve!, Back on August 5, Steve Ferrar posted the same concept on this forum.... with the mono. Nat Moody from first light also does one he tied two years ago with the tail tied up the shank which gives it the nose first effect.... on Nov 4, 2003, after seeing Moody's fly I posted one here which was one with a mylar body...same concept.... I caught one fish the first time I used it off Stage harbor down Hardings beach. But look at Ferrar's also, bueatiful work...

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A little concept I thought up on the way home, a quick tie but demonstrates what I'm trying to convey...A Bent Hook. I'm a little busy right now to spend allot of time at the vise so if anyone wants to run with feel free....just give it a cool name.
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A little concept I thought up on the way home, a quick tie but demonstrates what I'm trying to convey...A Bent Hook. I'm a little busy right now to spend allot of time at the vise so if anyone wants to run with feel free....just give it a cool name.
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I think with bending the hook in that fashion you would greatly reduce the effective gap of the hook and your ability to strip set. Would you agree?
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It's not much worse than the bait hooks they use down here for Reds.
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Sean, I agree with your concerns. I tie some crayfish patterns with the Diachi 1730 hook, which has a bend of about 30 degrees. I don't think this angle compromises hook gap, but anything beyond that is somewhat questionable. The flies pictured here appear to be at least twice the 30 degrees and may hinder the gap and hookset.
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