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Even if Sage, having run out of both kinds of tips, has stuck one on the end of your rod and now it is covered in ice(ing)? See the position you've put me in now that I'm the official arbiter of "tip-of-the-week"!
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We can help you out on the tips, afterall we are just now seeing the tip of the iceberg.

I wonder what lies below??
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Peter,

There already exists a site that does what you propose: http://steelheadsite.com/speycasting/ We also added a steelhead section to www.wisflyfishing.com (very active board, must be a member to view the posts).

The steelheadsite is not an exclusive fly fishing site. I have been bothered by the lack the of support that the current sites give issues like C&R, stream reclamation, stream ettiquette, etc. I am also bothered that up until the last melt down post (which was quickly pulled) that the www.speyclave.com has been a thinly disquised marketing tool for CND and Dana. I own several commercial websites and a web development firm and have been toying with the idea about putting up a GL fly fishing steelhead/atlantic salmon site. I was thinking along the same lines that you are about GL specific technique but also to discuss the issues about the state of the GL tribs.

Any interest in working together on this project?
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Dornblaser -

let someone who is not involved speak up, since you might have reason to question Juro or Dana's motivation.

The chicken (MSN - ISC) definitely came before the egg (FFForum and then CND and also Dana's professional aspirations).

Now the eggs have hatched. As the chicks grow, they are feeling their way around. I think they are doing a fine job. I've been bothered in the past by what seemed like informercials, but everyone involved (and I mean everyone) has shown a great deal of maturation in the process. You can't fault these people because they have professional connections as reps or sponsors or guides or potential book authors. I think they're learning, and making a great environment for everyone around here.

just my opinion over the years here...
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Steve,

Not sure what you mean by this: "let someone who is not involved speak up, since you might have reason to question Juro or Dana's motivation." I am certainly not involved except as an occasional poster. I did point out and question Juro's lack of professionalism in the thread that was removed. And, yes, there was a welcome change after then. I suspect that that thread was the catalyst that caused the change. FWIW - I have ordered a CND rod since then.

But the speyclave/speypages is not the point: I do think that are needs that are not being addressed by the existing forums. Specifically, GL focus on technique, streams, and ettiquette.

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Dornblaser

I think the GL section of this forum has had some good discussions. If there hasn't been it's due to a lack of postings rather than a lack of oppurtunity. Peter was initially discussing a site like his streamer page where information is posted - not another forum.

Rather than trying to reinvent the wheel you should talk to Dana and Juro. I'm sure they would be willing to add sections if there was a request and it made sense.

The problem with too many forums is that it convolutes the information. I had looked for information on the web for about a year before finding this site. I have gotten some of the best information I could have imagined since joining this forum.

This forum has true experts like Simon Gawesworth, Ed Ward, Bob Meiser, Aaron Reimer and many others that I cant even begin to name frequenting the site and answering questions about tackle they have developed. This sort of expertise does not exsist elsewhere on the web.

As far as being self promoting for Dana and Juro, I have never found a web site that wasn't promoting something. They have done an outstanding job being objective. Even though they are both linked to a specific tacjle company I have read posts from both of them praising tackle from other manufacturers when questions have been raised about it. If you really want to talk about being objective, they haven't intervened or even commented in a thread that has trended towards advocating taking the conversation elsewhere.

Instead of advocating a new forum start new threads here and add to the discussion.

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Gillie,

Good points. The speypages/speyclave is the best spey forum out there.

It is an idea that I have been mulling over for sometime now. I was thinking of a site that was information rich that also included a forum and that had a focus more than spey.

I should have emailed Peter directly and not posted. Let's let the subject drop for now. If it moves beyond the idea stage to the planning stage I will post again.

Happy New Year everyone,
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I'm familiar with the Steelhead site and I'm not planning anything near as elaborate. This is just a simple site with info on tactics, etc. for GL spey fishers. The structure and functionality is already complete -- all that's left is to plug in the text and images. I will be having a section open to other GL spey fishers to publish a small article on their preferred methods and I'd welcome your contribution.
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Peter,

It sounds great, I look forward to seeing the site.

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Dornblaser -

As somewhat of a veteran in building and maintaining sites, if there is such a thing in this relatively new genre, I wish you the very best of luck with your venture.

However, I respectfully and graciously ask one thing of you. Please do not solicit or recruit interest toward your commercial site objective here in this forum.

Thanks and enjoy the site.

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Peter,

There already exists a site that does what you propose: http://steelheadsite.com/speycasting/ We also added a steelhead section to www.wisflyfishing.com (very active board, must be a member to view the posts).

The steelheadsite is not an exclusive fly fishing site. I have been bothered by the lack the of support that the current sites give issues like C&R, stream reclamation, stream ettiquette, etc. I am also bothered that up until the last melt down post (which was quickly pulled) that the www.speyclave.com has been a thinly disquised marketing tool for CND and Dana. I own several commercial websites and a web development firm and have been toying with the idea about putting up a GL fly fishing steelhead/atlantic salmon site. I was thinking along the same lines that you are about GL specific technique but also to discuss the issues about the state of the GL tribs.

Any interest in working together on this project?
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As somewhat of a veteran in building and maintaining sites, if there is such a thing in this relatively new genre, I wish you the very best of luck with your venture.However, I respectfully and graciously ask one thing of you. Please do not solicit or recruit interest toward your commercial site objective here in this forum.
As I wrote earlier, I was just thinking out loud and was not soliciting interest. Let's drop the discussion.
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