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Old 10-25-2004, 04:52 PM
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Okay folks, does Trey Combs have it right, or does Kent Helvie. Combs says two color body (orange and red) and black front hackle. Helvie says all red body and plain pheasant rump front hackle. The Combs recipe is my single favorite spey on the planet, though I tie it with an orange head.

So which one is right?
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Old 10-25-2004, 09:57 PM
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Philster,

It depends on whether you want to tie it the way Gobin designed it or not. Gobin tied it with the 2-tone body (he used flame orange floss for the rear body and chinese red dubbing for the front body) and black schlappen for the hackle starting at the second turn of tinsel. Others took Steve's original and changed it to a one-part body of red and changed the hackle to a dark, brownish ring-necked pheasant rump feather that is tied only on the front 1/3 or the body.

In other words, Trey is right about the way Gobin tied the fly, and Helvie is right about the way quite a few others tie the fly. Personally, I prefer it the way Gobin tied it when he originated it.
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Old 10-26-2004, 01:34 AM
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How the heck do you know all that stuff Russ?
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Old 10-26-2004, 02:38 AM
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Matt,

This is easy to answer.

I have known Steve Gobin for 13 years and have seen him tie his flies. I also know Trey Combs for 13 years and know that Trey is a stickler for accuracy in his writing. And, I know that Gobin has not met Helvie and doesn't know him. Since the fly is Steve's and I know how Steve ties it, I know that Trey provides the pattern recipe as Gobin ties it and Helvie provides an alternative pattern recipe that I've seen some others use on the river. This doesn't mean one is better than the other, they are just a bit different that's all.
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Old 10-26-2004, 09:14 AM
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Could anyone post a picture of each?

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Old 10-26-2004, 02:30 PM
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Here's one of my two tone ones, and it isn't supposed to have the orange head. I don't tie the all red... Oh yeah, be gentle, I'm no pro with speys.
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Old 10-26-2004, 03:38 PM
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Philster,

Except for the orange head, this is how Steve Gobin ties it (Steve uses a red or black head on his).
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Old 10-26-2004, 08:29 PM
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Looks great to me, I will have to tie up some for this winter.

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