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Old 02-15-2005, 12:53 PM
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The flies in the ad are for a relatively new sort (species) of fish here, these flies where especially designed for that fish (the Aspius aspius, latin name, english name unknown to me).

Bsically, they have created a small plug (lure) wich can be cast on a #6 weight rod without any effort.
Used in combination with a sinking or slow sinking line and the foam of wich "the body"is made this type of fly (lure actually) you can create a great action and can adapt to the deepness or shallowness in or what you fish at.

The creator of this plastic piece (wich had them made in series and different sizes) used to experiment with the necks of large plastic bottles, wich seem to have the perfect concave or radius to form this piece of plastic wich eventuelly ended up as this series-produced plastic diving lip.
Cut out a similar piece of plastic and adapt it to a streamer pattern, you'll be amazed on the action , here we have this sort of plastic bottles called PET, i'm sure that they are to be found anywhere.

There are some great flies to be tied with...my latest creation was a deer-hair spun mouse combined with this plastic diving-lip, great for pike-fishing, the mouse really wiggles trough the water and makes a lot of noise...not for the faint-hearted, the pikes really hit them hard!

But this simple plastic piece surely has some potential, for sweet as well as salt water flyfishing...although it's not really a flie anymore..
I guess the main reason why these "plugs"work so well is that they can be retrieved at a relative slow speed and still have a great action, as well as creating disturbance or tiny soundwaves in the water, castable as well, altough a big rapala on a #12 weight will also do the trick...

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Old 02-15-2005, 04:06 PM
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Nice explanation my dutch fellow. These flies are made for a quiet agressive type of fish in the freshwaters of Europe, the species is now starting to spread in the netherlands. I made some of these flies, they are very easy to make. Al you need is a hook, a bit of foam and the plastic lip is easy made out of a soda bottle, thatīs what Limpe means with PET. The thinner soda bottles do well, easy to cut with a stanley knife or even with some scissors. To make a symetric shape just doublefold a piece of paper and draw half of the lip or foam body, then cut it out. (for both the foam pieces and the lip you need a symetric shape)
The trick of the entire fly according to Marty, the guy who invented it is that a good plug defines itself by the central point of gravity. Thatīs why bending the hook a bit gives it the very plug-like action.
I tied a few of these "flies/lures" and fished with them this summer, they attract a lot of fish by the movement they make. Bass would really love it, but for saltwater...
I think it might be something for Tarpon, Cuda and all the fish that cruise the deepblue waters. Jacks would be aggressive towards it to. But if it will be something for bonefish, I donīt know. It floats, even if you fish it with a sinking line, and in my opinion the bones are more bottom dwellers. I wouldnīt know a type of prey that bones look for that looks like this lure (in the movement).
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Old 02-18-2005, 04:27 PM
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Hi It's Bert Vosters of Poseidon in the Netherlands.
The wobble flies were designed originally for large reservoir trout and asp.
But they also work excellent for bass, perch, salmon, ide, to name but a few. Most exotic report we received was from a friend who had caught tigerfish on the Zambezi river with the wobbler flies.
We had 5 sizes made, ranging from #5 (#10 nymph) to #1 (#9/0 pike lure).
The pattern pictured is just one of the endless possibilities this plastic bib can add to fly design.
The bibs are readily available through fly fishing shops in the Netherlands and they should be in the UK as well through Hopkins and Holloway, or Veniard.
Any (business) contacts in the US always welcome.

Hope this is within the rules of the forum; just answering questions...

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Here's a couple pictures of the "Aspius aspius". I couldn't find a common name anywhere for it, so I don't know what to call it in English either!
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