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Old 04-08-2004, 01:11 PM
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Gold Cup (B.P. Shops) fly reel

Any thoughts on the 8-9 wt. Gold Cup large arbor fly reel. They appear to be good quality for the price (165.00). Large arbor, large knurled drag knob you can get your fingers around, and large drag surface.

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Old 04-08-2004, 07:14 PM
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Not a direct comment as I'd not heard of the reels before ..

but Google put me into Pro Bass who have one that 'fits' up to a WF12 for $199. I think I'd be temptend to drop the other $35 bucks for the larger one.
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Old 04-09-2004, 06:48 AM
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I have both the 8/9 & 10/12 Gold Cup reels. I used them exclusively on my recent trip to Andros. The Carbon fiber drag was smooth and consistent on long bonefish runs. I have not yet tested the 10/12 on any really large fish.

I got them because I was intrigued by the quality/price ratio, and so far have not been disappointed. If they hold-up in the long term, ( And I believe they will,) I think they are the best value I have seen in a fly reel. The build quality is simply superb.
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Old 04-09-2004, 10:43 AM
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Any idea who makes these reels?

I does sound like a good price/quality issue.

fae

\Also heard (no confirmation) that Plug has now come out with a new line of larger reels. True?
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Old 04-09-2004, 07:33 PM
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Fred, I have no idea who makes them, but they are made in Korea.
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Old 04-09-2004, 11:48 PM
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I donated the 8-9 as a prize in a friendly catch and release surf challenge last year. My best friend ended up with it, loves it, and enjoys showing me the reel frequently and recounting how he won it.

The quality appears to be excellent, and the reel looks exceedingly durable. I especially liked the large, round, right-where-it-should-be, drag knob.

Glad to hear a good report on this reel.

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Old 04-13-2004, 04:56 PM
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For a reel that costs 15-25 bucks to make in Korea. It is really a bargain to buy it at $200!
I will stick to my Old Florida reels and I know what I am buying and who make them. Even though I pay more.
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PS. BPS reel is not made from Aircraft grade aluminum but with beer can aluminum. Be aware.
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Old 04-13-2004, 08:14 PM
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Talking Well, at least a lot of the folks are contributing to these via..

they're 'recycle bins.'

"BPS reel is not made from Aircraft grade aluminum but with beer can aluminum. Be aware."

But, your probably right.
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Old 04-13-2004, 08:33 PM
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To all of the gear snobs who have never even used a Gold Cup reel, please remain civil and keep your statements near the realm of what you actually know to be true.

I can absolutely gaurantee you that you can not have a quality reel made in Korea or anywhere else for that matter, for anything like the amount stated. You can make a low quality reel for twenty-five bucks, put a big name on it, sell a million, then bail on it leaving your user base holding the no-future-parts-supply bag, but that is another whole story.

This reel is way above the quality-level you have seen on other Korean-made reels.
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Old 04-13-2004, 10:41 PM
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At an environmental discussion back in the days when I lived in WA state, I learned that the need for aluminum used in cans caused a lot of environmental problems because in order to refine bauxite to that degree of purity (so that the can could be stamped out from a sheet of material) the process used up a lot of hydro power and it chopped a lot of smolts into mush.

But the plot thickened... the aluminum conglomerates were in bed with the ol' boy network in the Bonneville Power Administration (hydro moguls) and the common rate payer (you and I) paid to subsidize the consumption of power thru the dams in the order of 12 million per year (back in those days). You can bet the timber industry was in their speed dialing lists as well.

So aside from the important lesson "recycle every single can you use" we should be aware that there are many stones that can be thrown toward any country.

Frankly I don't know enough about aluminum alloys to say whether beer can aluminum is necessarily inferior, but I do know it's specifically made for a purpose for which it's superior. It would seem to me that's it's better than die cast reels regardless of the aluminum grade as long as it's machined from bar stock, and if the quality justifies or exceeds the price point then there's really no reason to knock it just based on country of origin.

What's a little disturbing is the provincialism occurring in what I had hoped to become a truly international angler's forum. One of the beautiful things about an angler's life is that there are no borders in flyfishing.

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