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Old 11-30-2003, 10:35 AM
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bendup instead of bendback

This a fly I developed last winter and tested this past season with the help of my clients in order to work out the bugs.
In seeking a hookup fly with a larger and deeper profile I started reshaping the hooks I was using, and through an evolutionary process I ended up bending the hooks up instead of back.
The main advantage of bentup hooks over bend back is the hookup rate increases. With bendback hooks you decrease the effective hook gap when you bend the point down toward the hook shank which decreases your hookup rate. When you bend the hook up you actually increase the hook gap. As you tighten your line to set the hook, the bend acts as a lever to open the hook gap up to its full potential.
There are two things that need to be done to reshape a hook to bend up. First you must bend the shank in the proper place and at the proper angle for the baitfish you are trying to imitate (this is varyable). Second you must open the bend of the hook(by squeezing with a pair of pliers) so the point is parralell to the new hook shank(this was the main bug that had to be worked out),if this step is not done you will lose many hookups. As with any hookup fly, do not cover the hook point with too much material.
With this style I have found that most fish are hooked in the corner of the mouth or in the lips. My clients have caught as many as seven bluefish on the same fly with out being cut off using a 12# tippet.

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Old 11-30-2003, 10:47 AM
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Stan , That's a great concept!..I am storing this away also...since the working of the hook is very unique... thanks
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Old 12-02-2003, 02:33 PM
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Hi Capt Stan,

I like your fly. It seems that bending the hook your way is somewhat akin to using a jig hook, except you have an extra bend to open the gap. Do you wrap lead wire on the lower part of the hook shank? It seems this would be necessary to keep the fly riding hook point up.

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Old 12-02-2003, 04:27 PM
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Dick, Lead wire is not necessary to make this fly swim with the hook point up. If you notice the photo you will see that most of the material is above the hook. This creates a drag similar to an underwater parachute with the hook being the weight hanging below, the only way this fly can swim is with the hook point up.
I do however add lead wire to this fly when I want to fish it deeper. I hope I answered your question.
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Old 12-03-2003, 05:50 PM
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Whats the recipe for this? I can't tell what you have around the eyes. Looks great.
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Old 12-05-2003, 08:35 PM
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Striperknight, The tail is unique hair, the wing is slinky fiber and pearl flashabou with peacock herl, and the gill plate is witchcraft adhesive mylar. The body is wrapped with pearl Bill's body braid
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Thanks Smitty and Capt Stan!

A most excellent evening "class" at the Rod Builders Workshop...
Capt Stan kindly supplied all the ingredients and walked us through the tying procedures...(see attachment)
We all got to do the good Capt's hook-up and conventional style...

Capt Stan's knowledge is beyond reproach and his enthusiasm is highly contageous...Smitty had to go beddy bye early to accommodate an early hunting engagement but his hospitality was most noteworthy and appreciated by everyone!
ThankYouBIG!

No one got hurt and the general public was never in danger!
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Had I known that there was a class i would have gone down. By the way to Stan and Pete... I have a draft....... and it includes both of you... you will see it by the end of next week.
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Old 12-06-2003, 10:07 AM
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Pete, It was great having you at the class, and I enjoyed seeing the flies you had posted up close and personal, really beautiful flies. See you next week.
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Old 12-06-2003, 10:38 AM
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Stan and Pete... can you post the time and schedule for the next session... Thanks
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Thumbs up Rod Builders Workshop...and MORE!

Call Commander Smitty @ Rod Builders Workshop...
(781) 582-1015
Capt Stan returns for the sequal Thurs 11 Dec @ 1900 (7pm)

The bus leaves at 7, DON'T BE UNDER IT!
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Given enough bananas...

Capt Stan can have primates tying in no time...I'm proof of that!

Here's a sand lance from the "bunker" using his techniques/tricks:
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In an effort to learn more about this flyfishing and especially fly tying thing , I attended Stan's class last night at Smitty's.

Very impressed with his ability to convey the techniques used to tie this fly. Definitely learned a lot more attending the class then trying to just tie it based upon what you see in the photo. He has some great tricks.

Defiitely going to be in my fly boxes this season.

Many thanks - Roop
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