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Old 11-20-2003, 11:29 AM
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dubbing block

Demand is a funny thing. Have been using dubbing brushes for quite a while ever since watching Alec Jackson and some Portland tyers creat some of their steelhead patterns. I had always done it using wire, hackle pliers and a shepherds crook. This method was slow but it worked and I wasn't into mass production anyway. Came across the dubbing block offered by Orvis at Creekside Anglers and even though it was spendy I bought one. The increase in speed was amazing and what you can create is limited to your imagination. I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread and talked the local shop into handling a few. He couldn't give them away! Now the item is red hot and can't be found. Don't know if Hugh and those guys still deal in them but if you think you can't live without one give Creekside a call.

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Old 11-20-2003, 11:51 AM
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5 minutes and a router with a V groove bit or a dado bit will make you a great dubbing block.
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Old 11-21-2003, 05:30 PM
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i used this technique w/ some hare's mask and it makes a really buggy look
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Old 11-22-2003, 05:01 PM
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I wax the wire before applying the hackle fibres - the biggest trick is to go slowly and stop spinning each time the fibres "bind up" - in this manner one can pick the fibres loose before you "wind up" with too much of a mess
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When the hackle is finnished the spinning process it looks like a large bottle brush - in much the same way as one folds a conventional 2-dimention hackle, one can fold this 3-dimentional hackle - so the fibres are all in one plain - I then leave them to "fix" under a book
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Old 11-22-2003, 07:46 PM
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Speybum makes great dubbing brushes

Roger on that!! Aaron makes these up and I've yet to fool around 'trying' to do my own when he does a knock out job far a 'buck and change.'

Aaron RULES!! Suspect he could do his 'wire strips' in just about anything you want.
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Old 11-22-2003, 11:33 PM
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I am going to try to post some photos of speys tied with my "wire Amherst hackle"
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Old 11-22-2003, 11:36 PM
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Now for a single Pink Amherst spey
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Old 11-22-2003, 11:51 PM
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Sorry Guys - I am on a roll! I have finaly figured out my new toy(Didgital camera)
Attached is a Waddington shank spey, tied with a spun "hackle" of Artic fox
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Old 11-22-2003, 11:55 PM
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Now for a shot of a few wire brushes with Artic fox and flashabou dubbing
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Old 11-23-2003, 08:53 AM
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Photos of process, please

Speydoc - could you do a few photos of your sequence of making hackle from Amherst? Also, wire size and other details. It is not always easy to make it work right with some of these fibers. You have done the difficult development work, so please share.
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Old 11-23-2003, 11:46 AM
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Speydoc,

Those look great. Is this the kind of device you are using? I tried to spin ringneck center tail with the block, but it sucked as I couldn't clear the platform far enough to spin it with out knocking all the fibers out. My next vise will be the nor-vise.

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Old 11-23-2003, 02:17 PM
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I use the small UNI-French wire - will post sequence in the next week(currantly on-call for a few days)
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The Roots machine I use is similar, but has an engine that I can stop abruptly and has the block stightly further out. Amherst centre tail is the only feather I put in a dubbing brush as it is the only one that I have not been able to strip from the quill with any consistancy - Ringneck strips very well, the trick is to soak it for about 12 hours.
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Old 11-23-2003, 03:02 PM
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Thanks Speydoc,

I was just trying to avoid the long soak. Guess I'll have to man up and grab the ringneck by the stem. Just in case any of you are still looking to buy a brush system, I found the one pictured above here: http://www.justflytying.com/twister.htm

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Old 11-23-2003, 03:43 PM
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Once the pheasant herl is sandwiched by the pieces of wire but still on the quill, you should be able to carefully cut the quill away with a scalpel or new razor blade. The works well when using straight-cut rabbit strips too. Anyway, this may allow you to preclude the soak.

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Old 11-23-2003, 04:30 PM
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Speydoc,

These Amhearst tail speys are most tantalizing, very well done indeed!
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