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Old 07-04-2003, 12:53 AM
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Fred E--N. Umpqua--how was it?

Title says it all--

I'm thinking about a quick trip coming end of next week, and am curious how you and others did, and where all you fished.

--Bill
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Old 07-04-2003, 03:37 AM
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River conditions couldn't have been more perfect!

But very few fish up to the Glide-Susan Creek campground area as of last week. The trip is worth the trip ... even if low probability of fish. If it's 'hard core' fishing you're looking for, I'd recommend you give the Blue Heron fly shop a buzz and check out the who, what, where and when.


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Old 07-04-2003, 01:40 PM
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Wow--a bit surprising. I hooked one roughly 10 miles up from Susan Creek a couple weeks ago (wicked grab of the waker), and there were already 40 fish in the oversummering pool up Steamboat Creek at that time.

Maybe there was an early slug of fish and then a pause. I was hoping the early fish meant for a nice run.

Is there any speyfishing for steelhead that isn't 'hard core'? <g>

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Old 07-04-2003, 01:50 PM
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You're probably right about a early squirt of fish ..

then a pause. Very few cars in the fly fishing area the day Joan and I drove the river, but it was a late weekday. Blue Herron owner (Sorry, I've forgotten the Gentleman's name.) was saying that the river tends to see the fishing pressure go up after the 4th, but they won't be fishing over much for a couple of weeks after that.

Reminds me, I've still got to do a Windchester Dam web site search to see if they post numbers.
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WINCHESTER DAM: Counts through June 15 include 17,104 spring chinook and 1,176 summer steelhead. - This is from an Org. Wildlife web site, and the 'best' I've found so far. On the same date the upper Rogue's count was 25,106/116.
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Old 07-04-2003, 02:10 PM
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Fred - can you provide the link with Winchester numbers?
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Old 07-04-2003, 04:28 PM
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Steve, this is as close to a 'count' as I could find.

http://www.dfw.state.or.us/ODFWhtml/...orts/south.htm

several sheets of reference points in google, but most of them very dated material. The above one was as close as I could get to something that even had 2003 numbers.
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Old 07-06-2003, 12:34 PM
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I fished the NU over the weekend. I didn't see any steelhead, but did hear of
a few being caught. The guys that said they hooked the fish said they were getting them on greenbutt skunks. They had been fishing since tuesday.

There was a major hatch of golden stones out, so I put on a big stimulater Friday night. Big trout were rising on the far bank and I was able to reach it with my spey rod. I started hooking 14 to 15 inch rainbows and cutthroats . I was surprised how fun these trout were on the spey rod. I thought it would just over match them, but they gave good account of themselves even against the big rod.

I heard there are now 85 fish up in the hole on Steamboat Creek. I wonder if the fish just shot straight up there and may be will move back down as the water warms up there.

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Old 07-06-2003, 04:15 PM
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Terry, your over view seems to match what was going ..

on last week. Joan and I are headed back in a couple of days. The weather won't be quite as nice (assuming you like weather in the high 90's and low 100's!!! ) But it will make fishing a lot more enjoyable.

Sounds like you had a similar experience in hooking large trout; that was one of the highlights of the trip last week. I'll be bring a 5 and a 6 wt spey/switch rods specificly set up to chase these buggers.
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Old 07-06-2003, 04:27 PM
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North Umpqa web connect info.

Just found this one; info looks good and appears to be kept current. Like the stream flow data part.
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http://www.westfly.com/cgi-bin/snapshot_or_numpqua
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Fred.. gentelman is a perfect term and his name is Joe Howell.
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Old 07-06-2003, 10:01 PM
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Rob, no arguement there!

Gather he's been on location in his shop for over 20 years. You don't do that unless folks have a very good reason to continue to "drop the dime."

Looking forward to seeing him in a couple of days ... assumeing Joan gets off her duff and gets organized. Why is it that a guy can get ready for a weeks fishing trip in 30 minutes. The Ladies ....

well I won't go there.
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Old 07-07-2003, 08:32 AM
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Fred - how long have you been married???

You just gotta understand the differences -

Guy- Rod, reel, vest, hat, waders and boots, foul weather jacket, camping gear, couple of cans of chili, case of beer, jug of Scotch. Done.

Gals - Is it going to be hot? What if it gets cool? Or rains? Oh, my, shall I pack shorts, or slacks, or jeans - maybe a sweater and a sweatshirt. Should I wear sneaks or what? Oh, dear, I don't have a thing to wear! I'd better go shopping.

And for meals - let me see - what's an appropriate wine? What entrees should I have? Which dishes shall we take? I've got to go grocery shopping, too!

Now, what will I do? Who else is bringing their wife? Maybe I should get myself a couple of new books. What are some good titles? Should I take some cards in case the girls want to play bridge?

Ad nauseum.

So, you see, it's a lot different for the gals - their "agenda" is either "different" or "warped" - I haven't figured out which.

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A looooong time Bob .... Only tried saying:

"You're mistaking me for someone who gives a ..." once.



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Old 07-07-2003, 01:53 PM
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Hey, Fred....

Now THAT'S a classic "STUPID" mistake! (Inside joke)

Glad you had the good sense to only say it once!

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Twice ... and I don't think I'd

be alive today to type this response.
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