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Old 06-03-2003, 08:39 PM
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Old 06-03-2003, 11:51 PM
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Tyler,

You have a serious Intruder addiction that is almost as bad as my addiction to spey flies and low-water featherwings. Just think, it will soon be time for Booby fishing.
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Old 06-04-2003, 09:21 AM
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Russ,

I'm always fishing for boobies...
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Old 06-05-2003, 03:18 PM
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Tyler,

Yep, but it is far better doing so in summer because of the "lighter" and "thinner" summer dress that is used.
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Splitting Pheasant Tails


I do not seem to be able to split a pheasant tail so it will wrap on the hook. Any tips on how to do that?
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Old 06-18-2003, 08:22 AM
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fishinfool,

I soak the tail in warm water for 15 minutes before I operate. As well a good single edge razor blade is a must. I find that the wrapping is easier if the tail is still supple from the soaking.

One other factor is practice. It seems alot easier to do now that I've tied a bunch of them!

Some guys have told me they sandpaper the pith off the back of the split tail which reduces the thickness of the feather. While I haven't tried it, it makes sense. Good luck.
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Old 06-18-2003, 09:56 AM
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I too soak my pheasant tail.....however, it is much longer...overnight is preferred. I hold the tail by the tip with one hand, with the quill pointed down , grasp the tail fibers of the opposite side with the remaining hand and pull down and steadily. Stripping the fibres from the center section of the tail

You are actually stripping the membrane of the tail with all the fibers in tact. but WITHOUT all the center pith.

What you end up with is a very nice hacklelike feather...sans the pith.

It is much like stripping one half of a hackle for a spey pattern.

Bit of a pain to soak overnight when you want to tie now. but believe me the little wait is well worth it. Stuff goes on like paint...smooth as silk

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Old 06-18-2003, 11:35 AM
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Jake,

How much stiffness does the stripped feather have? One of the design characteristics of the Intruder is that the pheasant tail is stiff enough to help create the vortex of water that Ed wants. I will have to try this and check it out...
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Old 06-18-2003, 01:19 PM
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Tyler,

This method of stripping has no effect on the stiffness of the feather fibers whatsoever. It only removes most of the feather stem making wrapping it easier. This is the same method used to tie spey or dee flies in extra large sizes with Emu or Ostrich feathers.
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Old 06-18-2003, 06:13 PM
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Tyler

Flytyer hit the nail on the head......the stiffness of the pheasant tail fibers is still there. It just allows for easier less bulk building wrapping.

The stripping is the same as stripping one side of a large hackle to reduce bulk.

I dont use a razor knife at all.

Try it you wont go back to using a razor again.

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Okay, I've got some soaking now!

Here's one of the latest versions
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Old 06-19-2003, 02:29 PM
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Those Dean river Steelies won't have a chance. Let us know how they work....actually ....just post some pics...there is little doubt how those chrome rockets will react to the intruder.




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Old 06-20-2003, 01:04 PM
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Jake/Russ,

I soaked some pheasant tails last night and then stripped them. It worked great, while I haven't yet tied with them, I can see they will be great. One question, do you resoak them before tying, it appears that once it is dry that the membrane is a bit brittle?
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Yes ....I resoak if I am not going to use the tail right away.

You are right they do tend to get brittle if left to dry.

Have fun......show us some more pics when you can.

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Old 06-23-2003, 11:25 PM
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Jake,

You are right the stripped tail is the way to go. Here's a couple of more.
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