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View Poll Results: What would you do if you were in charge?
Keep the 2 fish kill limit as is 0 0%
Back to 1 fish, 28" 2 5.26%
Increase Limit to 36", one fish 17 44.74%
Revert to 1 fish 28", more selective gear regs. 7 18.42%
Increase Limit to 1x36", more selective gear 1 2.63%
Slot limit 11 28.95%
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Old 06-11-2003, 06:39 AM
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Arrow 2 striper limit opinion poll

With respect to the recent MA reg changes, how would you set the regs if you were in charge of MA striped bass fisheries?
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Old 06-11-2003, 08:10 AM
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I've talked with a biologist with Mass DMF (Division of Marine Fisheries) and asked why 28".

The answer came back stating that the biomass can handle the removal of these fish. There was more but I can't quote accurately but that was the bottom line.

I've also read enough to know that these fish MAY have spawned already - ONCE!

O.K. - I'm no Forrest Gump but I ain't Einstien either...the result is a self-imposed keeper size of 36", 1 fish per year, on fly gear.
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Old 06-11-2003, 08:11 AM
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Sounds good to me, count me in on the 1x36FF club.
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Old 06-11-2003, 08:42 AM
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I would not kill the larger fish. They are the ones who lay more eggs and while they may not spawn in one year for what ever reason they are mature enough to know where and when to spawn again. I just think that the larger fish are more benificial to the fishery. I would reduce some of the smaller fish population. Perhaps one fish 28". FishHawk
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Old 06-11-2003, 09:21 AM
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Hawk - would you then support a slot limit? A "Larger than X but smaller than Y" type?

I see your point and it's in line with my friend at the DMF, if remember correctly.
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Old 06-11-2003, 09:49 AM
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There are three ways to kill less fish - limit the number of fish, limit the size of fish, limit the methods by which we fish.

(MA):

- We currently have the annual limit to 730 fish per angler.

- We currently have the size set to 28" or greater.

- We currently have no restrictions on angling methods.

Is there a problem? DUH

Too many fish are killed for consumption. Too many fish are killed incidentally during angling. At least the consumed fish were utilized.

I would like to see more refinement in the angling methods - circle hooks required for bait for instance. I would also like to see a seasonal limit - 20 fish per year per angler. That's at least 100 pounds of striper fillet per household. I would also like to see a slot limit where the public is allowed to harvest (limited) from the least vulnerable year class in the overall population, across the entire region not just Massachusetts.
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Old 06-11-2003, 10:02 AM
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I was thinking along the lines of an anual limit too but it wasn't in the list of options. Difficult/expensive to enforce? Some type of tag system - pick up your 20 tag allocation at the start of the year. Get your keeper and affix the tag immediately etc. These systems have been around for a while for commercials.

I went for the one at 28 + limitation on methods - I too would rather see the bigger fish swim away.

Slot limit sounds o.k. .... 28 < xxxx < 35 maybe ?
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Old 06-11-2003, 10:06 AM
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I think a Seasonal limit is a great idea. 20 fish seems like a fair number.

Slot limits make more sense for the reason Fishhawk outlined. Plus those big cows aren't as good to eat as the ones that just make the limit anyway.

Either a seasonal limit or a slot would be a step in the right direction...unlike this year's bonehead legislation. 2 fish over 28" goes right up there with no beer sales on Sunday...only in Massachusetts
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Old 06-11-2003, 10:55 AM
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Gamefish Status; don't see that on the poll...

And larger fish produce larger egg sheds.

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Old 06-11-2003, 11:07 AM
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Slot limit.

Also pro gamefish status.

Gamefish status allows for taking of fish by recreational anglers so a limit will still be required.
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Old 06-11-2003, 11:53 AM
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slot limit is ok along with gamefish status.
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2003 MAINE STRIPED BASS REGULATIONS

Maine's striped bass regulations cover all Maine coastal waters up to the head of tide in all rivers. In addition, there are special regulations in effect from December 1 through June 30 in the Kennebec, Sheepscot and Androscoggin Rivers and all related tributaries (see below).

STATEWIDE REGULATIONS

OPEN SEASON - January 1 through December 31, inclusive (except the Kennebec watershed, see below).
BAG & SIZE LIMITS - A person may take and possess 1 fish per day. The fish may be between 20 and 26 inches total length, inclusive, OR 40 inches or greater in total length.
DISPOSITION - Personal Use Only, sale is prohibited. Fish must remain whole and intact while fishing.
GENERAL GEAR RESTRICTIONS - Hook and line only, no gaffing of striped bass

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SPECIAL KENNEBEC ** REGULATIONS
(Including the Sheepscot and Androscoggin Rivers and all related bays and tributaries)

OPEN SEASON - July 1 through November 30, inclusive.

CATCH & RELEASE SEASON WITH SPECIAL GEAR RESTRICTIONS - From May 1 through June 30, inclusive. Fishing in this area is restricted to single hooked * artificial lures only and use of or possession of marine bait, dead or alive, is prohibited.

CLOSED SEASON - Striped bass fishing is prohibited from December 1 through April 30, inclusive.
( * may be a single treble hook)
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Old 06-11-2003, 02:27 PM
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I got some info from the Mass DMF - here's the web site:

www.mass.gov/marinefisheries

Check the site for thier newsletter.


Also, if anyone is interested in the letter written by Director Diodati - I can forward you a copy - please PM or email for more info.
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Old 06-11-2003, 03:02 PM
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Go with a slot limit, one fish under 24" or one over 36"
Let em swim!!!
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Old 06-11-2003, 05:47 PM
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Until recently I had never kept a fish during a solo outing. However, in late-May 2003 a 31" striper inhaled my Rats Ass near Chatham Light and the hook was buried deep, deep in its throat. Right away I knew that I could not back the hook out of this fish without seriously stressing the fish. It was going to swim away and die.

This was a bittersweet moment for me. I like to practice catch and release but at the same time my in-laws were in town and begging for some fresh striper meat (they are from Indiana).

In truth I was sort of happy to learn the tricks involved in filleting a fish from my Dad (we were fishing together when I caught the fish). The generational transfer of these tried and true methods of filleting a fish was a moment of great joy and appreciation and respect.

Back to the moral of this story: that fish provided enough meat for 6 people or more. We wasted some of the meat.

Therefore I think that a slot limit makes sense. I like the Maine slot. It provides a decent fish for a family of 4 (I respect the right for a fisherman to keep a fish for the table) but keeps the mid-thirties fish available for the spawn. If I took a 33" fish home for the table (I am married with no kids) then I would be wasting some meat. A 24" fish would be perfect.

I also support a yearly limit on the number of fish that can be kept - although this might be really difficult to enforce. This 2 fish a day stuff is wrong.

Just my thoughts...

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