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Old 02-10-2003, 02:32 PM
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Fish do not feel pain, I knew in 47 years of fishing I have never seen a fish cry


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Old 02-10-2003, 03:21 PM
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Very insightful, they probably don't think either.
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Old 02-10-2003, 04:02 PM
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They do think, even with their pea sized brain, enough to avoid our flies a high percentage of the times they encounter them.

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Old 02-10-2003, 04:33 PM
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Man that's hard to believe. I would think that all living creatures could feel pain. Pain is what keeps us from doing a lot of things that could hurt us.
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Fish react out of instinct not thought like we do. If they did you were never catch a fish that has been released.
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Old 02-10-2003, 08:09 PM
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I can't agree...

If they REALLY had thought, and senses to match (all part of the brain), we'd NEVER catch one!

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Old 02-10-2003, 08:15 PM
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Maybe we catch the illiterate ones only !

Something else to think about.

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Old 02-10-2003, 11:13 PM
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Pmflyfisher,

I saw this too. I'll bet that the PETA folks will ignore it or find fault with it anyway. Some peoplel just do not want to accept the truth, even when as my grandfather liked to say, "It hits them upside the head."
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Old 02-11-2003, 07:29 AM
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Flytyer,

Yep your right on. PETA people are another world along with their hollywood star funding resource.

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Spare us with PETA, that is a can of worms that should not be opened.
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Old 02-11-2003, 11:20 AM
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That was another of the dreaded threads last winter.

I won't be going there, some one else will have to do it.

But if if P. Anderson images come up I might have some interest.



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Old 02-11-2003, 12:23 PM
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Ever hear the old phrase "Let sleeping dogs lie"?

In many of those threads it may be a good(make that great) idea.
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Question Thinking fish

I believe that fish can, and do think...

Trout are selective...

If it was to react out of instinct alone, then any mayfly shaped fly would be consumed.

Trout do key in on color and size, passing by other hatches that do not fit within the ranges that they set.

This requires thought to process the key factors of the selectiveness of the hatch.

If it is instinct, then they would need to have a larger brain to house all of the "Instincts" for every hatch in their local area.
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The study presents information that, to me as a Marine Scientist who has spent years studying actual fish behavior and physiology both in school and in a work setting, as well as the bottom of beer bottles, is absurd. It's very difficult, i.e. impossible, to conclude that fish don't feel fear based upon some limited studies, whether or not this guy has been involved with related research for 30 years. I could go into tremendous detail and relate literally dozens of stories and observations that lead me to believe that fish do indeed feel fear, but why bother. The pain issue may be just as hard to nail down.
Oh, and as for those twits over at PETA... they can take their ideas and...
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Whether they do or not, we will never really know, I am just glad they do not cry.

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