Floating/Darting Sand eel-FB - Fly Fishing Forum
>> Archive: Striper (etc) Flies Tricks of the trade

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-11-2003, 07:58 PM
striblue's Avatar
striblue striblue is offline
President of CAC
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Plymouth and Chatham, MA
Posts: 7,518
Floating/Darting Sand eel-FB

I am starting to experiment with Balsa wood for Poppers and have a thin guage square Balsa wood stick... carved down in tube shape and did this one...should float nicely and dart on strips. The epoxy application is about the length of the balsa body. Inside is saltwater flash covered by white and olive hackles. Got the idea about using balsa wood from Jay Horton.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	sandeelbalsa 001.jpg
Views:	288
Size:	15.9 KB
ID:	2010  

Last edited by striblue; 05-11-2003 at 08:19 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 05-11-2003, 07:59 PM
striblue's Avatar
striblue striblue is offline
President of CAC
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Plymouth and Chatham, MA
Posts: 7,518
Close up of the head....
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	sandeelbalsa 002.jpg
Views:	351
Size:	15.6 KB
ID:	2011  
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3  
Old 05-11-2003, 08:25 PM
flyfisha1's Avatar
flyfisha1 flyfisha1 is offline
Marine Scientist
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: NYC, South Jersey, Eastern PA
Posts: 1,080
Another great pattern comes to life... I like the idea of using balsa, though I have a feeling that some of the "purists" would scream... just goes to show you that saltwater fly tying is all about innovation. By the way, all of these patterns you've been tying, what weight rod/line are these meant to be fished on?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4  
Old 05-11-2003, 11:01 PM
striblue's Avatar
striblue striblue is offline
President of CAC
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Plymouth and Chatham, MA
Posts: 7,518
As far as the purist go...Balsa was used for poppers long before the current composit type popper plastics were used ..so if anything it is more traditional than the usual popper of today... deerhair is the other traditional way of tying poppers. I use only sinking or intermediate lines... an intermediate for this fly... but I might use it with my sinking line if that's all I had with me and had to switch flys. Even with the fast sink ,I think with a long leader and the right retreve I will get plenty of at least slight subsurface darting.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5  
Old 05-12-2003, 09:28 AM
kush's Avatar
kush kush is offline
CND The Spey Underground
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: West Coast
Posts: 1,435
John,

Have considered using a non-slip loop knot on this fly? The loop would promote the darting action.
__________________
Tight lines - tyler.

Still Living Large!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6  
Old 05-12-2003, 09:36 AM
John Desjardins John Desjardins is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Central MA
Posts: 1,839
Nice fly John. It should have a great action on the flats. How close to neutral bouyancy is it?
__________________
John Desjardins
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7  
Old 05-12-2003, 10:30 AM
striblue's Avatar
striblue striblue is offline
President of CAC
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Plymouth and Chatham, MA
Posts: 7,518
Tyler.. I usually tie all my flys on with the Non -slip Mono loop anyway and would do so with this one. John.. I have just floated this in the sink... I have not tried using the Balsa on a fly like this yet.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8  
Old 05-12-2003, 10:52 AM
juro's Avatar
juro juro is offline
Coast2coast Flyfishaholic
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Steelhead country|striper coast|bonefish belt
Posts: 20,593
John - Nice tie.

When I first moved back from Seattle I used a lot of bouyant flies on sinktips for stripers with great success. The method is to pull the bouyant fly down in to the current and let it dance in the conflict between forces.

With the offset eye of this fly, it would boogie like a zara spook!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9  
Old 05-12-2003, 11:02 AM
Dble Haul's Avatar
Dble Haul Dble Haul is offline
Fly chucker
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: New England
Posts: 3,674
John- Great tie. Once again, I'll probably downsize it a bit, put it in some shiner colors, and start giving it a try on smallies once the water warms up a bit more.
__________________
Mark
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10  
Old 05-14-2003, 08:25 AM
ScotsPhil ScotsPhil is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Lochs & Reservoirs in Scotland and England
Posts: 42
Striblue

What materials have you used apart from the balsa and are there specific tying instructions?

Cheers.
__________________
Phil McDade
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #11  
Old 05-14-2003, 10:25 AM
striblue's Avatar
striblue striblue is offline
President of CAC
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Plymouth and Chatham, MA
Posts: 7,518
Phil... nothing different from the usual Feather brain sand eel ,except that the hook is imbedded into the balsa a little and the hackles are glued on like I would do a usual FB spreader... then epoxied over... the epoxy is applied over the entire length of the balsa underbody... whereas with a spreader i just epoxy a bit of the hrad... the other Feather brain eel has clouser eye as well on some and nono on others. I will do step by steps but only after the FB is published.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #12  
Old 05-15-2003, 12:41 PM
flyfisha1's Avatar
flyfisha1 flyfisha1 is offline
Marine Scientist
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: NYC, South Jersey, Eastern PA
Posts: 1,080
John, what type and size hooks do you generally use for the FB patterns? I'm specifically interested in the gap, because the few FB's that I've tried to tie seem to encroach on the point too much. Granted, I was using C71-SS Circles by Mustad... would an 811S or 911S work?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #13  
Old 05-15-2003, 02:46 PM
striblue's Avatar
striblue striblue is offline
President of CAC
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Plymouth and Chatham, MA
Posts: 7,518
All sizes are usually 3/0 and bigger..and I use the Varivas or Trey Combs... the hook gap needs to be checked out no different than any spreader fly you tye.... but if you make your spreader smaller you can use smaller hooks and I never epoxy under the head..just the sides and top... so the gap is always there anyway.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #14  
Old 05-18-2003, 07:22 AM
saltydog's Avatar
saltydog saltydog is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: some where on the water
Posts: 508
Thumbs up

I see your up to your old tricks again, nice looking. Ill have to do some my self.
"GOOD LUCK GOOD TYIN"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Fly Fishing Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mega Sand Eel Jim Miller >> Archive: Striper (etc) Flies 5 06-29-2008 07:58 PM
sand eel steelheadmike Stripers and Coastal Gamefish 2 04-08-2002 08:33 AM
Grizzly Sand eel striblue >> Archive: Striper (etc) Flies 0 04-01-2002 10:12 PM
Floating sand-eel Bob Pink >> Archive: Striper (etc) Flies 0 03-19-2001 09:17 PM
YASE (Yet Another Sand Eel) StriperTom >> Archive: Striper (etc) Flies 5 03-21-2000 08:14 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:32 AM.



Copyright Flyfishingforum.com (All Rights Reserved)