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Old 12-06-2003, 12:24 PM
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Old 12-06-2003, 12:27 PM
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Old 12-06-2003, 12:29 PM
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i used treble hooks and cut off the third hook the one that is soldered to the other two

total lengh is about three inches
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Old 12-06-2003, 07:10 PM
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Those are very nice flies for your first attempts. How did you arrive at using clipped treble hooks?
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Old 12-06-2003, 08:03 PM
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i didn't have anything else to use and i figured two hooks are better than one
got them in a box at a garage sall for free and i had no other use for them
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Old 12-06-2003, 08:33 PM
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Two hooks aren't necessarily better than one; in fact, a surer hook set can be made with a single hook point. The same force applied to a single hook would be halved and spread out over a double hook.

I'm not criticizing here....I just think that there is a common misconception that the more hooks, the better. This is especially true with spin fishermen. Most of the very experienced spin fishermen that I know replace the rear trebles on their plugs with single hooks in order to get better hooksets.

Not only will single hooks get better hook sets, but the fish you catch and release will thank you for using them too. They're far easier on the fish than doubles or triples.

At any rate, I think that your deceivers should have no problems attracting the fish.
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Old 12-06-2003, 08:41 PM
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i see your point with hook setting but say you set the hook hard enough and get both in they will hold better than a single hook
if i had some single hooks on hand and in the right size i would have used them before the trebles
i don't have a problem setting the hook while spin fishing i probable set the hook too hard
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Old 12-06-2003, 09:44 PM
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By giving the fish two hooks imbedded in its mouth, you've given it more leverage for the fight. If the fish is sizeable, you've given it yet another advantage to use against you. And as I've said before, two hooks will hardly ever hold as well as a single. It's simple physics. And it's easier on the fish.
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Old 12-06-2003, 09:51 PM
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...And it's easier on the fish.
That's for certain, Mark; trying to dig more than one point on the same hook out of the jaw of a fish, particularly one with teeth such as any of the members of the pike and perch family or many of the saltwater species we pursue, can be tricky and hard on the fish when the angler can't get the hooks out. Singles are better than multiples, and frankly I think that they're easier to set the hook with, also. Of course, the other issue is the action of the fly in the water with a pair of points rather than one. Nice flies, though, Sean, good use of grizzly.
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Old 12-07-2003, 12:12 AM
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Nice tyes for starting out...keep it up... but I also have to agree on the single hook concept.... Flies are great!
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Old 12-07-2003, 07:57 AM
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most people never think that deeply about hook selection other than the point and the strength of the hook thanks
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