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Old 04-05-2003, 09:25 AM
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Trilene is the know I use for most everything also, although I need to try some of these others.

Still have problems with Flurocarbon leader knots, slipping.

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Old 04-05-2003, 10:42 AM
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I have found the palomar knot stronger, easier to tie and more reliable than the trilene knot.

So much so that I have not used that trilene knot in years.

I like the looks of the loop knot, which I will incorporate this spring. Anything to give one an edge is tops with me.
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Old 04-05-2003, 10:43 AM
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Instructions for the "Rapala Knot":

http://www.mnfishing.freeservers.com/rapalaknot.htm

and the "Trilene KNot":

http://outdoortrail.net/westonka/knots/trilene.htm

Finally, here is an interesting knot site:

http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/knotlink.htm
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Jansik Special

I have used the Jansik special for years. I found it even more reliable than the Paomar, by repeteadly breaking 10 # Maxima with two large hooks attached to the strand ends, one with each knot. Some times the Maxima would break away from the knot, indicating near 100 % breaking strength.

When the knot failed, it was always the Palomar.

I am planning to use the non-slip loop for standard flies this summer, for the reasons Kush listed.
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Never once had a palomar fail, they are supposed to give 100% line strength.

What ever works is what I say.
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as i have preached many times on this site,i use the non slip loop for 1. classic flies tied on alec jackson 3 tru 3/0 2. intruders 3. tubes. never had one fail. pay attention when you go back thru overhand knot after the 4-5 turns to go back thru between top of overhand and the tag on its way in thru the overhand.beau
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I second the non-slip loop. Every since a buddy showed me this some time ago, it has been my knot of choice and have yet to have one fail. In fact, almost always the loop breaks and the knot holds.
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The potential advantage that the trilene knot and Jansik Special knots have over the non-slip loop and Palomar, is that they have two wraps through the eye of the hook, versus one for most others. Fighting a fish can put a lot of strain on the nylon, two wraps will hold up better to that strain than one IMO.
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Old 04-29-2003, 08:16 PM
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The Palomar indeed has two wraps around the eye, and I've got to wonder if it's been tied right if it's been anything but reliable. Counting all of my pre-flyfishing days, the palomar has been the strongest and most reliable knot I've used and is very simple to tie.

For snelled or ganged hooks, the bumper tie is the way to go; for loop eyes I prefer the double turle for summer tippets and just use a single turle for 12-15 pound maxima tippet in winter; for everything else I use the palomar. Wrke - I didn't know your friend invented that knot, I've been using it for years because it lays nicer on the shank and now I know where it came from. Cool, tell him thanks.

I tie all of my striper flies with palomar knots because it's the most reliable, strongest knot I've tried over the years. When you are battling a 40-45 inch ocean bass with shoulders on a 12-15# flouro tippet it's the only knot I trust.

I like the little extra action a loop knot provides but I've gotten the little broken loop back so many times where I've felt the palomar would not have given in. For instance a tube fly uses no such advantage but if tied to have action it makes no difference to the fish.

Count my vote in the palomar for a general knot; turle/double turle w/ 8 or striaght for loop eye; and the rest are non-fly knots.

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