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Old 04-10-2003, 12:10 PM
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If I am repairing the taper section of a leader or tying a saltwater leader, I will always use a blood knot.

Almost always use a surgeon's for the leader/tippet connection because it's so easy.

I think a blood knot is the strongest provided you can seat it right and not burn the mono when tightening. Gives you a straigher connection from section to section too.
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Old 04-10-2003, 05:53 PM
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This is what I have for recipes, All are for Maxima so I have them in # test rather than dia.

~ 9'- 5X
# test Length
25 24" Chamelon
20 12" ""
15 8
12 6
10 6 Switch to Ultragreen
8 8 Ultragreen
5 10 ''"
3 32


For 7-8 x cut the 3# to 12" and use 30" for a tippet.

saltwater 15# 5'
40# 20"
30# 10"
25# 5"
20# 5"
15# 20"
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Old 04-10-2003, 05:56 PM
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i couldn't find the booklet i'll post it when i find it

i always use a blood knot
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Old 04-10-2003, 06:39 PM
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Decisions, decisions....

Notice I said a triple or quadruple surgeon's knot. It seems as strong as a blood knot, but is probably as large in the "quad" form. But it is easier to tie - especially with cold, numb hands.

I tie my leaders up ahead of time, and keep them in money envelopes for convenience. Sometimes, on stream and with cold hands, I just replace the whole leader, rather than having to screw around tying on a new tippet. I can do that easier in the comfort of my own home!

(Oh, I forgot - I albright knot a short piece of heavy leader material to the tip of my fly line, waterproof it well, tie a perfection loop in the short piece of mono, and I have a permanent loop connection. All my leaders have loops, so making the change of leaders is easy. Why don't I use a nail knot for the connection??? Easy. Nail knots are known to slip on newer technology lines with mono cores; albright knots apparently don't. I was told this by one of the line manufacturer's reps.)

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Old 04-11-2003, 08:15 AM
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Thanks John,

Now I just have to find somewhere local that sells good hard mono for leaders.

Bob - I use the albright the same as you for my SW lines. Works great.
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Old 04-11-2003, 08:37 AM
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Stiff butts:

Use the Chamelon, or go up a size in what your using and add a 6" section to the transition region. I've used Mason in the salt water leader recipe and it is stiffer than the line with an 8 wt.
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Blood or Uni?

In building leaders, I've always used blood knots for all of the transition sections, both for their small mass and for the fact that both upper sections come out straight, not offset. I can't recall a blood knot ever failing me, even though it's weaker on a % basis than some other knots. For connecting the tippet section to the next section up, I use uni-knots. I'd still like to find a stronger line-to-line connecting knot.
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