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Old 06-06-2002, 09:43 PM
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optics

you can skimp on rods, waders, and just about all the other gear. You can NOT skip on optics if you are going to sight fish! Of course if you can't see the fish anyway, buy the cheapies.

By the way go amber unless you have high contrast. Personally, I have just gone amber in all my frames. But I probably have several thousand in optics by now. Thank god for sponsors. Oh yeah Action Optics Padre's have lasted 3 seasons now. I've only had Costa Del Mars one season and they broke the first week when I sat on them. I have yet to have an Orvis frame make it even one season. They get a big thumbs down. With most of the poor quality frames the UV will eat the plastic and the lenses will pop out in no time.

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Been using the same pair for 3 years now and haven't scratched them or had any problems whatsoever... L0ve them compared to the poly's that I have had in the past. They are worth the money!
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Old 06-07-2002, 09:59 PM
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You're right Eddie, this is a great thread and I will move it to the Gear board for future reference.

Per the colors, everyone sees things differently so it pays to experiment and think thru what's best for one's own perception nuances. To your point I spoke with Peter Crow of Action Optics recently and he advises that copper is the best all around choice for most retinas. He is also an avid angler, go figure

I think it would be a great resource if we could get a manufacturer to offer a variety of colors for us to evaluate 'in the field' in exchange for such feedback - even more than we touched upon here. By being enthusiastic about such topics, these possibilities can become real. I think that would be a good return on our investment here, and all we need to do is keep talkin'!
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Ok, some one has to ask the 'dumb question.'

Several refs. in this thread to "RX." What is that, a brand, type of lens, etc.
Sign me: "the unknowledgable one."
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Old 06-07-2002, 11:08 PM
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I believe people are using Rx (medical shorthand) for "prescription", denoting the need for corrective lenses.
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Old 06-07-2002, 11:56 PM
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"TM" 99% probability your right on,

but needed to confim anyway. Darn these things are expensive ...

Replacements over the years vis a vis the lens, as the eye-balls have changed, but been lucky that the frames have held up. EG: just stick the new lens in the old frames.

Guys gotta do what a guys gotta do ... to save a buck.
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Old 06-08-2002, 01:51 PM
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O.K. all of what everyone has said so far is good advise and for the most part I've been there, done that, so here are a few extra comments of my own.

I am farsighted which means that my glasses are thick in the center, thin around the edges. Fit overs always scratched my regular poly carb glasses right in the sweet part. Besides the quality was not near as good. As I wear progressive bifocals, this became very expensive to have to replace the lenses. Oversize, tinted, scratch resistant, yada, yada, yada.

Inquiring about prescription polarized shades I was told that they would be thicker and heavier than what I was wearing. This was not acceptable. What were my options?

At the time there were not too many. One was contact lenses. Bifocal contacts? No, they do not work very well. However I was able to wear contacts to correct distance vision. This resulted in a big weight reduction in my glasses since they now only had to corrrect for close up work. They were still progressive bifocals and still very expensive but since the upper part is zero prescription, much thinner, and lighter weight. Life is good.

I also found that my vision was much improved. I had to wear a tool makers eye loupe that I would flip down when I had to tie on small trout flies. Don't have to use the toolmakers loupe anymore, even with # 20 flies.

The contacts worked well unless I put in a looooong day. Then they would get kind of gummy and no amount of eye drops would bring them back. I would have to resort to wearing my old glasses if I wanted to stay up and be able to read. The only other reservation I had with the contacts was that I had to keep buying replacements every 90 days. ( I was wearing the disposables. I could get about a week out of a pair of lenses)

Although laser eye surgery had been available for a while, it had only been perfected for near sightedness. (it won't work for you, the story of my life it seemed) No more. Wonder of wonders, they have now perfected the technique to correct for not only far sightedness but astigmatism as well! After checking this out and consulting with my optometrist, I decided to have it done.

The results are truely amazing! I can see very well without any glasses at all. I still use my expensive progressive bifocals but I really only need them for fussy close up stuff like tying flies etc.

I too am still searching for solutions for good polarized fishing glasses or I wouldn't have checked out this post. But the bottom line is this. They no longer have to be pescription glasses, therefor they don't have to cost an arm and a leg and they don't have to come from your optometrist. There are several options for taking care of the close up work. And remember that we are only talking about fishing glasses, not every day full time glasses.

With that in mind consider the following options for taking care of close up work such as tying on #20 flies. Flip focals, these are cheap. clip onto the bill of your hat and you don't have to remove your sunglasses to use them. Stick on bifocal lenses, these are also enexpensive and adhere to the back side of your sunglasses. They are not as cool as progressives, but they are only for temporary use, when you are fishing. As a last resort, you could go down to the local drug store and get some reading glasses. Wear them around your neck on a corkie. You would have to remove your polariods ( also on a corkie) to use the reading glasses but it would enable you to see up close. All of these are kind of a pain in the butt and not near as good as polarized progressives, but they will work for a temporary solution while out fishing.

The good polarized sunglasses really do perform better. They will block out UV better, will cut glare better, and will not distort the way the cheapies will. I have been looking at various options for quite a while now and am currently investigating glasses with interchangable lenses, different shades for different applications. Like the wrap around styles but haven't really settled on anything yet.

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Old 06-09-2002, 12:57 AM
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Thumbs up Thanks Guy's For answering all my Questions

after 3 years of Lazer surgery and finally going in and having my eyes removed so that the surgeon could stop the blood vessels behind my eyes from bleeding and making me go blind, I can see again:eyecrazy: :hehe: . The one thing i have wanted for a long time was a good pair of prescription polarized glasses and now after one more visit with the good old Doc next month i will be able to get a new prescription and get my new glasses . I have been trying to figure out the best type for me and all i did was confuse the hell out of myself(well that is not hard to do ). Then i find this thread and now it is as clear as daylight(excuse the pun) what i am going to get. Action Optics, Glass,clearwater copper tint and the padre frames. Get a pair of the chums retainers and i am good to go . Life is good!!!. Just reading through the posts you guys made it all so clear and covered every question i had,thanks. Oh Fred before you ask yes the Surgeon put the eyes back in the right way so i am not looking backwards in side my head: . tight lines, brian
I do have one question for FlyFishAR, john do you wear side shields with the padre frames? if so which ones,the hard sideshields or the moldable sideshields??
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Old 06-09-2002, 08:26 AM
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Whiskey Dick:

No the Padre frame is a wrap around so you don't need side guards. I just got back from a week of Tarpon fishing in Islamorada and I wore that very frame. The skin got torched but I don't have any eye problems at all. Other than the fact that I look like a racoon from the tan lines. The amber color did a fine job in letting me pick out tarpon in some really crummy overcast conditions and various color of bottoms.

Just as a side note..... Day 3 in Islamorada I fished postion #2 of the Pocket on Buchannan Bank (the locals acted like it was a really famous spot). Caught a couple of fish and had a generally great day. The guy in position #1 kept having people come over and talk to him so he missed a ton of fish. Later in the day I found out that it was Billy Pate I was catching fish behind. Poor guy must have had 10 boats stop by to talk to him.

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Old 06-09-2002, 09:54 AM
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Wow out fishing the legendary Billy Pate, thats an accomplishment. I love doing that to some of the guides up in Michigan occasionally, then they wonder who is that mysterious guy.

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Old 06-09-2002, 11:39 AM
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Hal:

I wouldn't exactly say "out fished". More like it was hard for him to fish while people kept bugging him all day, wanting autographs, ect. I just wanted some Tarpon and I'm sure he did too. Besides it would have been easier for me if he was casting at fish. Once you have the swimming speed of the migrating tarpon down you can pretty well set your watch by when they will get to you once they pass the position ahead of you. There was a ton of smoke in the air, and visibility was poor, so my knowing when tarpon were moving down the bank would have helped alot. Being able to see him cast at fish moving down the bank would have been a major benefit, not a negative. FYI from what I understand he will sit and talk all day in his shop for those who care to. So, you don't have to bug the guy while he's fishing.

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Old 06-13-2002, 02:08 PM
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I took leftys advice and bought a cheap pair of Bolles after I lost my action optics a month or so ago. Yesterday I tossed them in the trash can cause they were horrible.

Just bought another pair of action optics and gone is the distortion and I can actually see into the water more than a foot or so. I started out with action optics when I began fly fishing so I never came to appreciate what good glasses can mean to your success. Now I do and $150 is more than worth it.

Had to dip into the ross canyon BG5 fund but a fancy reel is worthless if you cannot spot the fish you are trying to cast to.

Now to buy some corkies so I do not lose these ones.

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Boy do I feel sheepish. Sorry about that Sean.
Where I fish there's nothing to see. When the water is clean it's very deep (rocky shoreline). When there is an occasional flat it's stained brown by tannin. And the tide swings are so big the flats come and go too fast. I just don't sight fish much. At least it was a small investment.
Maybe I can make it up to you with an outing. Aren't you moving to Beantown?

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I have had prescription Maui Jim's for years and they're great.

Only wish I could attached side shades for when I'm fishing.
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Old 06-14-2002, 01:28 PM
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Ahh Lefty not your fault. They are good for driving or if I was blind casting but not for technical sight fishing. They are still nice glasses and I will use em for everday use rather than fishing.

I will be steeping foot in Beantown October 1st. We still have not found a place but we are close. Trying to decide between the north end , New Hampshire border or down south closer to the cape to buy a house.

Looks like when we first get there we will rent a place in city to get a feel for the area.

Hopefully I will be able to get one striper in before the winter really sets in.

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