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Old 01-09-2002, 02:09 PM
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Chopping up my new S.A line

Hi All.
I got a new reel from Santa, it came loaded with a Scientific Anglers 10/11 floater. Up to now I have always fished either floaters, intermediates or sinkers, never the three should meet.

Now having listened to your ideas I intend to start choping up this line and fishing sunk tips.

Now bear in mind this line costs $80 in the Uk. What length do I chop off the front ? Buppa ? seems to suggest 17ft in another thread.

What taper should I buy to make the tips, Wf or Dt.

I think WF but I wecome your advice. Scissors to the ready

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Old 01-09-2002, 02:16 PM
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Hello Willie,
You would be best served by leaving some of the front taper, I would suggest cutting at 12-14ft and if you are at liberty to choose between wf or dt, I would go with a t/t sinking line and just match up the cut end of your sa to where a match is with the t/t.(heavy end) I hope this makes sense.
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Old 01-09-2002, 02:25 PM
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t/t ?
another term please ?

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Old 01-09-2002, 02:30 PM
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wulf triangle taper =t/t You would do the same for a wf or dt just match up the diams. but the heavier of a tip that you want, the more you must cut off of the taper of the sa line. But by leaving some of the taper you will have a smoother casting line and the triangle taper would enhance that even further.
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Juro, please jump in here please.

Doc, Juro has an excellent web site on making up sink tip lines; don't have it as a 'fav. place' on office computer but he should be able to connect you asap.

It's Juro's directions I've followed for years on the how-to of this.
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Doh
t/t triagular taper should have known

Cheers Fred.
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Willie - if you new line cost $80 (or pounds or euros or monopoly)
I would suggest you leave it intact and cut up an older one, maybe even an old trout line and use it for the running line.

Just a thought.
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Willie, Sprocket has a very good point. The article Fred was referring to is here:http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/juro.htm
On Mark Bachmann's website under Mastery spey he says to cut the line where the diameter is .070:
http://www.flyfishusa.com/lines/Mast...ries_Spey.html
There is more good info here:
http://www.isomedia.com/homes/celestev/choose.htm

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Old 01-09-2002, 05:03 PM
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Thank you chaps,
I had changed price to US dollars to make life easy.
We work sterling as we are outside euro land.

I was just intending making the tips as in part one of the article, part two looks to complicated and I think I would be better with a cheap line.

Must check new sites , thanks again

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Malcom,

If you haven't already taken the drastic step on the chopping block, there is an alternative that leaves your line intact. Over the past two seasons Dana and I have been experimenting with "poly-leaders" made by Loop and Airflo (and a number others just recently on the market). These are mono core leaders covered with tungsten to provide the weight, they come looped and I think they are the cat's ass! I attached a heavy butt section to my fly line and tie a loop 3-4" down, to which I loop the poly-leader and add a 4' section of tippet. Now the regular front taper turns over even the poly-leader and it sinks like mad due to its thin profile. They come in every sink rate from Hover to type VI. I can hit bottom in any water I would normally expect to catch a steelhead in with standard tips and the true bonus it is casts like a regular floater, but gets down like a tip! We have not used the standard sink tip since we started experimenting. These are very cool.
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Similar stuff to Kush

I also use the super fast sinking short leaders fro Airflo off the end of a 7-8 midspay. Sinks like a rock and very quick to pop back to the surface for your next cast.

Think the short nature of these things (like 4' long) precludes having to do the surface roll cast frequently necessary with a 15 foot heavy tip.
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Old 01-15-2002, 03:06 PM
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Hi
I've been using these for a couple of seasons now but I don't think they get down enough. Also the river flow is quicker at the top so a long floater tends to come round quicker. This is on of the reasons I fish a full sinker, but I am willing to try one of your long sink tips to see how it compares with an intermediate.

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PS 1st fish from the Tay today opening day.
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First fish! Details! Details!!!

Ok Malcom "spill your guts!." We want details on type, size, etc.
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Old 01-15-2002, 04:30 PM
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Sorry to disappoint

Hi Fred et al.
Having read my thread again I see what you mean. What I meant to say was someone caught a fish on the opening day on the Tay. Lucky B gger I was busy working I do not get lunch hours? like yours Fred.

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First fish on the Tay! Spring is not far away.

Thanks for the great news Malcom, I hope someday I will see opening day in person.
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