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Old 12-22-2008, 08:30 PM
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Reasons for offshore flyfishing

Guys,

I need some help with a perspective on offshore fly fishing. I duly carry an offshore fly setup or two on most offshore trips, and perhaps 10% of the time get in on some, sometimes spectacular, fly action. The flyrod typically comes out when weíre surrounded by fish, and itís almost too easy to catch them other ways. Then it seems like a way of handicapping oneself for epically easy conditions.
Now thatís in marked contrast to trouting, where a fly is by ffar the most effective fishing method, and there's real beauty, elegance and skill required.
So the question really boils down to what offshore flyfishing means to folks. It seems kind of inane for it to be just a way for handicapping oneself when it's too easy any other way, but thatís what itís become to me, and Iím not sure I like it.
And itís hard to meet dedicated offshore flyfishers. I did meet a few trophy hunters, folks determined to catch, say, all 6 species of billfish on a fly, or all the tuna species, or whatnot. They are driven, true, but somehow the essence of the sport and their pursuit seems hollow.
If somebody can help me put offshore flyfishing into perspective, Iíd hugely appreciate it.
I seem to have kind of lost my way, motivationally.
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Old 12-23-2008, 09:12 AM
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My suggestion would be to leave the gear home the next time you go. I do the offshore thing a couple of times each year and have never brought along any gear and won't fish with a captain who would hound me into switching to it. I don't feel I'm handicapping myself at all. I've caught seven sails in one day with three guys total in the boat also fishing. I guess I don't really need to catch more than that in one day. There are days out of Jupiter/Palm Beach when I realize that we might have caught more fish on gear, but caught plenty on fly for my interest. Here we're talking crevalle jack, false albacore, dusky and spinner sharks, occasional shots at amberjack, and even occasionally a dorado. Just leave the gear at home for a trip or two, and I don't think you'll have any further need for others to answer your question for you.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:59 AM
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If I read your question correctly, I don't see offshore any different than other venues. Flyfishfing is rewarding if it is practiced to its fullest. While it is an art form, to me, it is all aspects interwined: flytying, rigging, executing the cast, presentation, hookup and proper fighting technique.It can become furstrating under adverse conditions, but sooo rewarding when it all comes together.
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Old 12-23-2008, 01:15 PM
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Josko, I think you are getting older and wiser and "run & gun" is the first thing to go
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JB is right.... I carry my fly rod on board "while Trolling with the out riggers".... if I get one chance at a cast if there are rising I have the rod and line ready...as best as I can ...to have it ready... this is off Chatham... now the guys from First Light do make fly rod trips only... but I have not done that..... It is all a matter of some chance... heading out... seeing some action and getting there. Guys with the casting rods or spinning with the big reels have a better chance... but it does happen.... running and gunning is not going to work with 5 squid rigs out....so... I never go out ONLY for fly rodding at least in my location.... it can be a long day...but there is always striper and bluefish action...usually heading back to the barn. IMHO
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:56 AM
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My sense is that consistent success in blue water flyfishing comes from a committment to the approach. The way the boat is set up - outriggers, live chum etc., along with covering a lot of water looking for signs of breaking fish. That said, there's nothing wrong with going out with bluewater fly gear rigged and ready for the 'bonus' shot. But then it's a game of chance.

Locations are a big factor also. Cabo, Panama, Costa Rica all spring to mind when I think about blue water fly fishing. One of my goals is to get back to Christmas Island and dedicate a couple of days to working the deep waters right at the edge of the reef. I've watched tuna busting on schools of flying fish at sundown within 500ft of the reef edge down there.

Why do we bother? I'm not a big fan of the record seeking crowd. But the challenge of successfuly hooking and releasing blue water fish on fly gear can't be denied, at least for me.

If I felt the need to refuel my enthusiasm, I would go back and re-read Jack Samson and Trey Combe's classics.
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