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Old 03-15-2006, 01:14 AM
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Help!!! Putting the Epoxy/finish on the rod wraps!!

Am into my second rod build... Am at the point of putting on the epoxy/finish on the wraps... Started w/ the standard flexcoat regular epoxy... worked ok, but was difficult to apply and get to flow smoothly... next, tried the Flexcoat-lite - the thinner version that requires 2 applications... that flowed better, but still, only needed one coat, and the flow wasn't as good as I desired. W/ my second rod, I tried the Lite again, and worked to keep temps in the 70's... well, the stuff set up really fast, and was barely able to get to half the rod before it set up... the frist 3 or for wrap sets turned out good, the last 3 i got to looked like s**t..

What am I doing wrong? Does anyone have recommendations, or are there otehr finishes/epoxies that are better or easier to work w/?? This second rod's a gift to my brother, and want to do it right...

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Very important , you must heat up the epoxy before you apply it. I use the hot water method. I have a small container full of hot water to put my two bottles of part A&B. Before I put the bottles in the container I hold them under hot water and get the bottles hot to the touch. It works like a charm. I use Flexcoat lite . This should help you out. FishHawk.
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Feiger,

I think FishHawk hit the nail on the head with this one. Also, you will want to work in a warm, dry environment. If you are doing it out in your garage or some other cold place the stuff will set up quick even if you follow FishHawk’s advise. You may also want to use a lighter to heat it up after you have applied it. Do not apply the flame directly to the finish, this will burn it and screw it up, but hold it close enough to slightly warm the finish. If you do this while the rod is turning on the drying rack it should help you get out any lumps as well as popping any bubbles in the finish.

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Old 03-15-2006, 12:18 PM
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I've had excellent results with a product called Trondack Dura Gloss LS Supreme. A single coat does the trick and it's thin. Like the others have stated the preparation is still important and many a rod has been built with flex coat. I'm no expert but a got many tips from one. Here's one that's pretty well known and I don't feel like he's going to track me down for sharing it.
Warm up the two parts of the mix - mix them by slowly stiring them in a cup first in one direction for 2 minutes then in the other for 2 minutes- I hold the small plastic cup over a light bulb while mixing. Try not to whip the mix, that would introduce more air bubbles. Once you are satisfied with the mix put it onto a double layer of tin foil - spread it out and put it over the light again to help get the air bubbles out. For some reason it seems to have a shorter cure time if left in the mixing cup. The heat will accelerate the cure so only use it for mixing and to pop the bubbles. I use the syringes to measure the 2 parts as they have a different consistency at the same temperature - it's important to get the mix correct.

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thanks all for your help - another question...

So what is a reasonable amount of time I could expect to have to apply a "batch" of finish on to thread wraps?? I'm using a dryer that's turning at 4 turns/minute, pretty slow. And it feels like i'm taking a lot of time at each wrap applying finish. Given that you do what you've described above, how much time do you have before it begins to set up to the point it's no longer managable? thanks for your help... gonna need to order more finish before I can continue....
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Haven't really timed it but about enough time to do four or five wraps. It sets up in about two hours. That does not mean that you 'll have two hours to apply the epoxy. You'll know as the epoxy will not flow as well. FishHawk.
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