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Old 02-07-2005, 07:50 PM
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Double or Single, Snake Roll??

Good Evening,

Fishing Murdoch -Sector 6 York....

My question is the following.... the "x's" are BIG Fish!!

Should I use single or double spey or Snake Roll???

Oh? and your fly choice ( I won't tell anyone!!)

Keep'em in the water!!

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Old 02-07-2005, 09:10 PM
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Ann, I know nothing about the York or Atlantics so take this for what little it's worth, but I'd fire a Circle cast about 10' or 15' above those fish and a few feet beyond them, using a baitfish pattern, not a standard Atlantic wet. But before I'd do that, I wouldn't fish from where that guy's standing as it leaves too little time to get the fly swimming right before it reaches the fish. I'd move about 20' or 30' upstream and cast from there.

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Old 02-07-2005, 09:41 PM
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I would go with a single. Fly of choice would be a Lady Caroline.
I have never fished for Atlantics though. I don't see how they could
refuse such a sweet fly.

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Old 02-07-2005, 11:49 PM
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I love these types of quizzes so I couldn't resist.
disclaimer: I can't adequately perform any of these casts and I have never fished for Atlantics BUT given the opportunity I would -

1. Follow Peter's advice and move up 20' to 30'
2. tie on a surface fly like a Waller Waker or something with a rifle hitch
3. use a single spey and get that thing skating on the surface just ahead and over those fish to try and entice them to follow and take on the surface.
4. if that didn't work I would then repeat the single spey with some Atlantic wet fly and try to get them to chase a subsurface fly
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Old 02-08-2005, 03:43 AM
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Couldn't resist...

So long as the wind was not blowing downstream, I would use the single spey. I would also try to fish from further upstream(initially) to get the fly swimming in front of the fish. If this was not possible then the double spey is as good a cast as any for getting the fly square across the current.

Without knowing the water temperature, time of year, or freshness of the fish it is hard to say what type of fly to use. I fish in Scotland so know only about Atlantic Salmon in general and certainly know nothing about the fish that run Canadian rivers.

However, here goes, if I was fishing from further upstream and fishing the fly slowly across the fish I would fish a small fly size 10 or 12, assuming a water temperature of around 13-18 C (56-65 F). Pattern would probably be a Stoat's Tail variant tied with a flat silver rib, bright yellow tail, and longer arctic fox wing, or a similar dark fly with a trigger point.

If I was fishing with a squarer cast and the fly was coming across the fish quicker, I would switch to a brighter or flashier fly, and maybe go a size up.

Failing that, I would try a collie dog and then a riffled fly. Also, if I could get to the other bank I would try to pester them with a fly on the dangle.

Then if no fish takes I would leave them in peace and try further down stream for a taking fish. Actually, I would probably have left them in peace after the first two attempts and then come back to them if I could find no more takers.
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Old 02-08-2005, 05:27 AM
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i would again move up stream as evidenced by the belly in the angler's line. then i would use the reverse double spey cause the wind is always blowing downstream. the fly for that water would be a green machine #10 with a cream colored tail or a green francis just as small. i would hook nothing, beat the water to a froth trying and then let Charlie or Brian catch them behind me. or at least we will see in june.
good post.
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