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Old 12-30-2004, 06:25 PM
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Question Timing?

A friend and I are going to go to the Gaspe and try Atlantic Salmon fishing for the first time this year. We are both rookies but have a good bit of steelhead fishing under our belts. I have contacted Ann at Quebec Sporting and she has given us three options of the first of June, the middle of June and the first of July. We cannot make up our minds as to what would be the best time to go. I am hoping some of you vets out there may have some advice as to what is the best of the three options and why.
We will be having all the arrangements taken care of by Ann and I must say she is one of the most helpful people I have ever dealt with. I highly recommend her services to any of you who are in the same situation as we are. A very classy lady who really knows her stuff.
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John
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Old 12-30-2004, 08:10 PM
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Keep going down the same road you started on. Ask Ann what she thinks is best and go with it. You are not going to get any better advice. She really does know her s#*t.
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Old 12-31-2004, 07:35 AM
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It Depends on What You Are After

Your choice depends on what you are after and what water you will be fishing. For instance, on the York and Dartmouth the possibility for a 30+ white hot Springer is possible during the first week of June on the lower public water. For years I have chosen this timing because no other time of the year offers such a pure opportunity. This is also true of The Restigouche, Matapedia, Cascapedia. June first is possibly my favorite overall day of the calendar. Now that I have said this please understand that the odds are not in your favor. This is quality time and by no means a quantity situation.

The next timing in June is around the 10th to the 14th depending on late or early season as well as by river. A wave of 12 to 25 pound class fish arrive. There will still be some large fish and some grilse will be present. This timing up to the 21st can see the holding pools start to collect fish. These are bright and powerful fish. You will have a greater quantity of salmon, the water will probably be lower, and the weather is far better.

Now we move to the end of June into July. This brings a wave of fish of every size. Dry fly fishing is going well and stealth is of major importance. So long as the water and weather cooperate this is the most prolific time for salmon fishing. Please remember that if you are fishing public water the quantity of fish has a direct effect on the quantity of anglers. You are deep into kill season.

This process is happening on all the rivers of the Gaspe. The earliest starting on the Restigouche(Middle May) and later on the Pitite Cascapedia, Bonaventure and Matane.

I first started going to the Gaspe in 1980. I fish all the above time schedules on different rivers public, zec and private. Sometimes success sometime not, but never have I looked back without wonder. My comments are an in general guide. Each year on every river is different. You can only go with the odds of experience and roll with the decision. You are on the path to Salar nirvana in North America. If you can afford to use an outfitter or guide service I would highly recommend doing so. All the very best of luck.


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Old 12-31-2004, 07:45 AM
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Salar 33 - welcome to the salmon forum! Your knowledge is well appreciated.

"white hot springer" - that brings shivers to my spine!
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Old 12-31-2004, 11:31 AM
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Salar 33 - welcome to the salmon forum! Your knowledge is well appreciated.

"white hot springer" - that brings shivers to my spine!

Juro,

A "white hot springer" in the heavy water one can expect in early June not only sends shivers up a fisherman's spine, it scrapes skin from the knuckles. If you ever go at that time of year, be sure to bring heavy rods and extra lines -- you might lose some.

CK

John,

While I have not been going to the Gaspe' for as long as Salar33, I definitely second his comments. For what its worth, I was on the Matapedia last year during the last week in July and the fishing, as far as quantity of willing fish was concerned, was the best I have had in years.

Salar33's advice to use a guide, for at least one day if you are able, is right on. There is a significant difference between steelhead and atlantic salmon fishing. A good guide can really point you in the right direction.

CK

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Old 01-02-2005, 07:35 AM
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Thanks so much to all who responded. At this point, it looks like we will be going the first week in July. I am very excited about finally getting to do this.
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Dear Ann,

Oui, vous êtes correct.
This is Basket Pool on the lower York. The fish sit in Home Pool for a bit and then move on to Basket. We were showing our finest Green McAusland's and Tiger Ghosts to a June 11th monster. She was sitting tight to the opposit shore in a two foot deep hole. She made one last showing and was headed your way.

Hi David,

Good to see you getting active on the posts. Your knowledge and information is always a great read. Hope to have more to keep the winter coat in check.

Always the very best,

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Old 01-06-2005, 12:52 PM
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Merci Bill

Thanks.....

Bill,
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Thanks Salar 33

Salar 33,

Good to be back...

Hopefully the rest of my posts will be about fishing, techniques or the simple love of the sport!

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Old 01-06-2005, 02:23 PM
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The Best of Heart

David,

Sometimes hard work and love of the sport does not always equal the easy life. We, who know what it takes to do what all the outfitters, lodges and guides do understand. I polled a 26' Gaspe boat once. And once is enough.

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