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Old 12-20-2004, 09:56 AM
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Ridiculous Clave... Head Count!

OK. We've narrowed our search down to two locations in the southern Bahamas.

Long Island---Deadams Cay 4/12---4/19
Crooked--Acklins Island ??????????

Airfare to Great Exuma is currently about $450.00 per person RT with Taxes from PVD. A hired air charter for nine passengers from Georgetown, Exuma will run $90.00 RT and is a very short flight. A car will run us $50.00 a day divided by the group. Lodging stands at around $225.OO PP for the week. Check out previous posts with details on the Turnbull House on Long Island. So, we are at around $800 per person before we add food, drink and options for guiding.

It's time for a headcount again on who wants to go, regardless of destination.
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Akclins Crooked Island Adventure-- Somewhat primative. Juro will post soon on this.

Deadmans Cay Long Island --------- Very civilized w/ all the amenities.

Please reserve your reply to this thread to head counts only. We need info from Juro
on Acklins Crookeds before we comment on that destination.

Thank you,

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Old 12-20-2004, 10:43 AM
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I'm in.

Big applause to Phil and Juro for all the leg work on this venture.
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Phil -

I am having a hard time putting all the pieces together the way you are describing them.

Let's start with the totals and divide as we get headcount rather than get headcount first. Initial Flight to GGT (Georgetown Exuma) varies based on origin so we can figure that ourselves, estimate $500.

Please list:

Charter flight total cost:
Please provide carrier information / quote for the plane options (6 seater, 9 seater etc) including landing fees etc.

Car Rental:
4 passengers per vehicle w/ gear = 2 vehicles vs 1?

Lodging cost in total:
We can divide later when we know how many people.

I think we can safely estimate $100 per person for food where there is a kitchen and 6 lobster per person per day limit and maybe a grouper or snapper or two (license required to retain lobster / fish)

Gas is a factor - Long Island is 80 miles long and if we can't DIY effectively near Deadman's then there will be a long drive to start the day at Stella Maris (I will not be fishing with a guide). Maybe we should include additional pricing for lodging options on the north end, up to you. Boat rental is another way to go.

I will do same for the Acklins / Crooked estimates.
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Old 12-20-2004, 01:29 PM
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Good point Juro. Bob did not mention the name of the company that flys us to Long Island from Georgetown although he says they are safe and very reliable. He must know. He uses them himself. A 5 passenger plane is $275 and the nine passenger plane is $390. These quotes are for one way travel. He did not mention landing fees. I will check. Also will check on max. capacity on the cars or if we can get a van.
The Turnbull house is $2000 for the week.

This is the reason I am asking for the headcount now. We will have a better idea of expenses when that count is firm. If we rent a boat there should be no guiding or should I say poling of said boat. This will only infuriate any of the guides in the Bahamas as they are the only ones allowed to guide there.

No need to go North of Deadmans Cay. Bob has assured me there are plenty of spots to explore to the south. You don't see them from space but they are there.
Steve Vletas has also confirmed this fact. We can take a ride up to Cape Santa Maria
if need be for the spouse trip as a dual purpose venture.

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More than likely I will be in no matter which place is chosen...

Long Island April dates look good right now...

I contacted my travel agent to see what flight prices are like to both places...

Of course for me the prices would be from BOS but I will try to find out from
other areas too....

If there is anything I can help with...research etc...please let me know...I am willing to help.
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Thanks Frank. Great to have you aboard along with Fred A! Plug away on the internet and find whatever you can from other DIY fisherman. That would be a great help. Here is some valuable info from Steve Vletas, author of Bahamas Flyfishing Guide. Here is what he had to say about Long Island in a PM to me:

Lot's of people write to us about fishing on their own, but usually they are not serious or interested in fishing and exploring on their own. They just want us to tell them everything, including all tide nuances. This defeats the purpose of fishing on your own, exploring on your own. If that's what they want, hire guides! If you really want to fish and explore on your own, south Long Island, meaning south of Deadman's cay all the way to the end of the island, is the best remote fishing you can access without a boat anywhere in the Bahamas.

And Acklins:

Better be prepared for unforseen glitches in car rentals, fuel, resturants that are open and finding groceries. Ther are only a few lodging choices. Also be aware that mosquitoes are an every day presence and worse after rain. A wonderful place to explore if you are patient and can deal with the above. Also, very few roads, if you can find them leading to productive flats. Bushwacking is a neccessity. The Crookeds are a different story as it is more heavily populated, but not by far. Services are better there.

More on the Acklins: Crooked from Juro. Let's keep this count going!

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It's cold outside!!!! Stayed home from work today. Called out! All those interested in this trip. Please check out this site. I saw a huge flat inside the elbow of southern Long Island. Very remote. The iMac I am using does not allow me to cut and paste so you'll have to do this on your own. And we thought South Beach was a hual!

http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov

Click on 'FIND PHOTOS' You will view a clickable map of the world.
Click then on the quadrant of the Bahamas. It's there! Just look for the blue speck. You may have to type in Long Island at some point. There is a great shot of L.I. and Crooked/Akclins in one photo. I feel warmer now just looking at this site as I'm sure you will too!

Happy surfing!

Phil
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