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Old 09-05-2004, 10:35 AM
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Tying Tube Flies Question:

When tying tube flies on a mandral, i was wondering if the tube is suppose to rotate on the mandral? I am using a devise ( I don't know the make of this tool) that fits into the jaws of my vise and has 3 differant size mandrals. I am using a combination of plastic, alumunim, and brass tubes. When tying the tubes will rotate, this makes attaching materials and wrapping difficult. This is my first attempt at tying tubes, any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 09-05-2004, 11:34 AM
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I use the same device, loop a rubber band around the end of the tube pull it tight under the jaws and anchor it in the material keeper on the top of the vice .
Cheap and easy fix.

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Old 09-05-2004, 12:35 PM
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Another suggestion...

A rotating tube is a real pain in the keester!
The HMH mandrels sport a slight flange at the end of their quite rigid tying shaft...
The tube slides up the mandrel shaft and then fits snugly over the widening flange and free spooling is essentially eliminated...
If your mandrels don't have that flange, make one yourself...
Wrap some flat waxed nylon thread to build up a flange (about a 3/16' widening taper) and secure it with a smear of super glue...give it a chance to fully cure.
Slide on your working tube over the "enhanced" shaft...if the build up is sufficient, it should hold the tube fast!
That's what I did before I got the HMH tool...cheaper versions have not-so-rigid flangeless mandrels...junque!
Do it right the first time and you only have to do it once!

Also, while you're tying...
No need to wrap too tightly with the thread...
Too tight and the tube will be compressed and removing it (off the mandrel) will be a problem...
A dab of head cement, as you tye, will ensure that the material will stay put, and make for a much more durable fly!
A little practice goes a long way!
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Old 09-05-2004, 04:52 PM
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One of the easiest ways that I have found to eliminate this, assuming I am working with a similar tool, is to slide the tube on to the mandrel/pin, followed by a piece of silicon tubing, push into the tool tightly and tigten the screw. The compressed silicon tubing should be enough to hold the tube steady.

Hope this helps.

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Old 09-06-2004, 09:09 AM
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Thank you for the input!! I will try all of the above recomendations till my HMH manderals arrive.
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Old 09-07-2004, 01:53 AM
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You could also try to use a blind eye salmon hook as a tube holder, the gradually increasing diameter usually holds the tube securely. Sometimes when using brass or aliminium I have found that the tube material rotates on the inner tube, but super glue fixes this. Other alternatives to the commercial tube tools are needles of variaous kinds. Even if I have a tube vise I seldom use it since I find the simple hook or needle system works better.

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