Didn't mean to imply anything, sometimes trying to be clear muddies the water. Sounds like that guy was launching a rocket on the delta!
I agree w/ your acquaintance Jerry, the new Euro sages cast a lot more than their line ratings. 12wt does fine on a 8wt (reduced in length a bit). This blank is the 12'4" 8wt (3-pc) Sage Euro rod. For a head, it throws the 450 grain QD as well as that thing can be thrown, I need to try a T-400 on it (today perhaps!).
We also have the 6wt 12 footer and the 9wt 14 footer. If you'd like to try out these rods as we complete them, I'll send one out for you to try out on the bay for a while. Your insights on the rod, line configs that you like, and it's use on San Francisco Bay area would be fabulous to know!
Let me know how your plans to head back out here are going, it would be great to hook up for some fishing.